NFL Gameday Week 1 • Page 172

i do - Doug was calling the plays lol

 

All I'm saying is it was *THIS CLOSE* to being a 24-7 game, I don't think we were even really letting up that much, we just did not make the proper adjustments when the fumble and long TD flipped it to 17-14

 

Giants over the Commies LOCK IT IN @oldjersey

 

FUCK this is the wrong thread but i will not delete a post

 

Wrong thread buddy

 

FUCK

 

I mean I get that but if he isn't even telling Press to call a fucking pass he should get axed too

 

I kinda get it from Doug, I too have a shit team at work that people constantly want me to do the work of but I demand they do it instead at a worse ability because I don't wanna have to do double my work due to their incompetence

The difference is I can't fire those people and didn't hand pick them

 

Lmao yeah like, a 1-5 collapse should get you fired

 

You watched the game and are closer to the know than me so obviously I'll tend to trust how you see it, but from what I saw is they passed the ball 7 times in the 2nd half and moved away to what I feel like the strength of the offense is. And yes they were a non-fumble away from opening it up ... but isn't failing to execute and fumbles in the redzone sorta the thing last year with this team? lol

Its a long season and only 1 game so I am trying not to overreact, but just stinks when a winnable game on the road is lost and feels like a loss that would have happened 2nd half last season too. And now you get Cleveland, Buffalo, Houston ...

 

My issue is giving Trev 7 chances only to do something in the 2nd half is stupid. You're paying the most. Fucking use him and if you did by him then cool, but what the fuck is the point of building the offense around him and then running 300 times???

 

On one hand I totally feel you here. Yes, generally I want to pass the ball a lot earlier into the second half, more than 7 times, and not just fold my arms and run like its the 1990s.

but on the other hand I think it is important to also establish the running game as part of your identity EARLY - because even if passing is your strength, teams can make it REALLY hard if you don't keep them honest. The thing that gets me is it almost worked, and there is no better time to do that and force teams to respect your rushing attack, than week 1 against a VERY explosive team you do not want to try to have a shootout with. If you win that game with ground and pound and good defense, all 13 of your other opponents the rest of the season are going to take notice & adjust their gameplan against you to respect the run.

It not only could've taken some blitzes off of Trevor, and made it possible to drop back under center without getting killed in future weeks when we do decide to pass more to win, but it also could've instilled a lot of early confidence and swagger in our defense, because we kept them fresh enough to get hot and control the game at times. You're also not showing too much of your passing strategy on tape and showing your hand too early, the less your division rivals see before they play against you twice, the better. Ideally yeah I would like to open up our passing game more later in the season but it's probably best if we save the best plays for the playoffs, so I understand it all as a long-term mind game.

Instead, because of the fumble (and multiple other offensive miscues earlier in the game), we lost and we now look like a team that is vulnerable to collapse if the opponent keeps the pressure on. It really is too damn bad that Etienne fumbled away a chance to make that statement in week 1. Womp womp.

But yes it definitely does remind me of the nosedives our offense would take last year every time it looked like we were in position to win. And I am worried about Buffalo and Houston but also still think they should be worried about us too.

 

it's like, just cause it didn't work doesn't necessarily mean it was a bad idea. On-the-fly adjustments matter too - and I'm not excusing the coaches' failure there. But sometimes it really is just a dumbass fumble and some dumbass drops that ruin a perfectly good game plan and turn the game on its side.

We tried passing more earlier but when your lead receiver Kirk is dropping two third down passes, that certainly affects the confidence you have in converting long third downs later and certainly makes you consider "what if we got easier third downs by running the ball more?" We tried moving Trevor out of the pocket and throwing on the move to create YAC but every time we tried that our offensive line got fuckin wrecked and Trevor wasn't able to avoid the pressure. We tried running and that worked and we stuck with it, and almost went up by 3 scores that way... and then we fumbled and gave up an 80 yard play. It wasn't like, we're passing and it's working, we're running and it's not working. It made sense in-game that we went that direction.

Similarly, on paper it was weird that we stopped throwing to Brian Thomas Jr - but I bet you anything if I turned on the tape it would become clear that there's a good reason. Maybe Jalen Ramsey stepped up his game started locking him down after that TD, or maybe the DC adjusted and started shading safety help that way, and that's why.

We should've just switched back to passing sooner and not been like "let's stick with the gameplan, we still have the lead" when it got cut to 17-14. That's something you do to "settle the offense down" when you're at home, but when you're away and that crowd is suddenly loud, you have to respond to the momentum shift.