My Chemical Romance Band • Page 566

Fake Your Death! Early 2014.

 

You mean the last song they released before breaking up? I don't feel like that should count.

 

In any case they were largely inactive for six, and effectively then another two, years. They're only a nostalgia act insofar as they haven't released an album in 12 years. They're gonna do what they want, people will pay those prices although I wish they didn't have to.

 

Blasphemy lol

I am a casual MCR fan but Danger Days fuggin rips.

 

I would pay $1k to see a Danger Days x Conventional Weapons in full show.

 

respectfully I think that means you have too much money and it needs to be given away

 

I volunteer to take that money

 

He's 100% right, I think acts are just embarrassed that a seedy part of the business has finally been exposed. Truth be told, I don't think many bany members personally get involved in these talks. They probably have agents/managers negotiate contracts for them, see a lump sum proposed and leave it at that. Robert Smith, admirably, leans in to understand the details which is why he's done what he's done. Most bands probably just have their managers tell them "Alright dudes, $50MM for the tour minus touring costs + my fee" and are like "LOLZ ok."

 

Yeah not sure why people would jump to blaming the band, except for not speaking out about it after they found out. This mess exists because of Ticketmaster/livenation, not just some greedy booking agents.

 

My evergreen tweet

 

(Sigh)

There's not ONE entity that is entirely responsible but everyone needs to stop thinking these massive acts are altruistic beings. Band, crew, promoter, agent, manager, ticketing platform, venue owner, etc ALL need be incentivized to make a profit for concerts. Ticketmaster is just a tech platform that manages ticket sales/data so, yes, they do get a cut of each purchase. Y'all would go nuts if you found out what percentage Amazon's fee is for everything you buy if it was shown in the checkout process.

 

These are the situations where I feel the phrase "separate the art from the artist" actually applies. It's a little naive to think that they know nothing at all of how this is working. Maybe a few years ago I could buy it more, but frustrating with ticket buying/pricing is a national conversation at this point. But also it's not something that's going to impact my ability to enjoy their music or show or anything. Most of us would probably do the same

 

Yeah I’m not dumb and that wasn’t what I was saying. And Ticketmaster is not just a tech platform that sells tickets. They have controlling interest in hundreds of the venues they sell those tickets at, as well as having a close to monopoly on ticket sales in general. But yeah they just manage ticket sales and aren’t the ones that benefit the most. Lol I didn’t say no one else is to blame for it or that Ticketmaster was solely to blame. But Ticketmaster is the reason this shit is going on, so I’m saying it’d make more sense to jump on them before someone jumps on the band, when they might not have even known what was going on until it happened. Nowhere was I contradicting anything you said. But (sigh)

 

Ticketmaster is the tech platform. Live Nation is the entity that cuts artist deals, draws up contracts, and provides advances and oh yeah - they own the ticketing platform AND operate most of the venues. So they’re charging the fee but also collecting it.

 

I know but I also use AXS and the fees there are the same, if not more oftentimes. Not sure how to fix that. Essentially, due to Live Nation's scale, they are able to overbid for tours which is then passed on to the consumer in forms of ticket prices. Given that a lot of these tours do well box office wise, there isn't really an incentive to be more inclusive pricing-wise unfortunately.

 

This tour might finally be an exception. This tour is NOT sold out - they could have sold it all out on Friday if they priced it better, but alas - there are hundreds (thousands if you’re looking at LA Night 2) of tickets still available that aren’t resale, almost certainly due to the insane percentage of Platinum Tickets. Even Dallas/Arlington and Seattle - whole rows on the floor still available but going for 700-850.

The touring market is already going soft this year. They were smart to keep this to 10 cities. But they will need to adjust pricing to move the rest of these tickets. There were so many arena tours this year that prices dropped close to the show because of this. For example, when Usher tickets went on sale the day after the Super Bowl, all his lower bowl tickets were priced at $399 or higher. They were available the day of the show for $79 or less since they were still unsold. (yes I know Usher is a weird example but there’s countless other examples - look at Foo Fighters and Zach Bryan’s stadium tours). With a few exceptions (Taylor, Sabrina), the arena-stadium market is over saturated

 

Yeah, I noticed that for even non-arena shows. I think that's just the new ways of ticketing. Sometimes you might get lucky with a "face value" ticket in the initial on sale and sometimes you might be a "face value" ticket that then drops closer to the date, similar to airlines. I'm sure this tour will still go clean given it's only 10-11 dates but some over-pricing probably resulted them unable to put out a "OMG TOUR SOLD OUT ON DAY 1" hysterical press release.

 

LA night two seems to be the only mistake.

 

I know it’s premature to say since these shows are 8 months away but that LA night 2 chart right now is embarrassing for being a “2nd night added due to demand”. Does not make it seem like any more adds will happen to this leg.

 

Doesn't help that virtually every decent seat is marked as platinum. But yeesh.

 

So..... what we're saying is prices will have to be lowered on dynamic priced tickets for them to sell out?

I feel the system might be working as intended then.


I saw someone defend Taylor's decision to not do dynamic pricing but her average ticket price was higher and her floor was $500 minimum, maybe the optics look better for her saying that even if she charges similar to what a dynamically priced ticket - maybe not. I feel dynamic pricing while awful, does allow there to be a lower face value listed. Pit for example many people got in at the $300 mark.

If dynamic pricing was outlawed I think ticket prices for most acts who would've implemented would just increase honestly. Same with ticketing fees, just there to artificially lower prices instead of being all in by default.

Idk there's a million different factors involved as someone mentioned, it's not just the band so while it sucks there's more to it.

I think most dates except LA day 2 were doing fine though?

 

Legend says selling out LA day 2 unlocks part of the new album, think of it as their DLC era

 

I heard it was a 30 second snippet of a demo of a rough draft of a new song but it's acapella. Time to go bankrupt buying the $800 floor tickets.

 

posting this again re: ticket prices, worth a watch always

 

This is not true. I believe she did sell some VIP packages that were higher, but as far as I can recall, the MAXIMUM price for floor seats was $450. Most floor & lower bowl Eras tickets were priced at $383 and $269. Even with the last minute Ticketmaster drops on this current leg, $450 seemed to be the max face value. So MCR’s tickets at Platinum Pricing are higher than Taylor’s were at face value.