More Details of Bruce Springsteen’s DWI Emerge

I'm not condoning drinking & driving, but I hope this event concerning Bruce blows over. There are some jurisdictions where law enforcement can legally work with a .04% BAC, legally twice as "drunk" as Bruce was in this situation

 

.02 is like half a beer.
Its mind boggling this cop even gave him a ticket.

 

very weird story

 

Like, would this have been a thing at all if he had left the seat of his bike, taken the shot, and then gotten back on the bike to drive away a few minutes later? Is the issue that he was still sitting on his bike?

Weird story, weird that it leaked when it did, weird that no media outlets that initially reported it took the time to get the full story before splashing it across the internet.

 

mans was framed

 

I don't condone drinking and driving whatsoever, but if dude really blew a .02 then doesn't this just like... go away? Seems like those a DWI wouldn't stick here... maybe a lesser charge or something

 

All of this because of a Jeep commercial.

 

Cop had an agenda. Most likely a Trump Supporter.

 

I mean I get it... I know people who have gotten in trouble for drinking a beer in a car at a cold tailgate. I've seen cops warn to ticket people who at a tailgate were drinking inside a car because drink in driver seat is a no no, so I get where they are going with this.

Bummer for sure, but drinking while in (on) driver seat (especially if it was turned on) is a slippery slope. If it wasn't Springsteen and there was a news story about someone drinking a beer but not at legal limit while driving we'd all be against that right?

With all that said... super cool he did a shot with a fan. But man that fan had to be on cloud 9 for the last two months and must feel horrible now.

 

I think that because it's on Federal property, it gets a little bit more difficult to predict the outcome. I live in Jersey and was kind of confused when this story broke, and was eager for more details. It's a pretty remote area, I literally go there to look for seals haha.

 

It's not a federal issue - the vast majority of states, including New Jersey, pair their DUI/DWI statutes into two separate potential charges. One portion of the statute will set out a "per se" offense, which is what you're thinking of, wherein the state establishes guilt by proving the defendant had a BAC over a certain % set by the statute (they prove you're above that, you're guilty). The second portion of the statute will set out a more traditional impairment offense, where the state can establish guilt by establishing facts showing impairment - witness/officer testimony about the driver's behavior, physical evidence from a crash, etc.

The "pro" argument of having the latter kind of charge is to permit prosecutors to pursue instances where persons are right around the legal limit but clearly impaired or a danger to others. In practice, it can also be used a lot as a plea negotiation tactic alongside a stack of other charges that may or may not stick, which seems to be the case here.

 

i think this is a story but it's weird that it's spanning more than like... a day.

 

Just try and cancel Bruce and see what happens...

 

I refuse to think like this, but it screams of the officer having an agenda.

If all that has been said is true, IF, then this guy deserves to be reviewed.

You following the letter of the law, but not the intent, but also not really following the letter either - is fucked.

He was sober, per legal definition. He may have been riding like an ‘idiot’ a bit, but the picture in my head is how my uncle rides like an ‘idiot’ in big empty parking lots. Not endangering anyone, just weaving in and out of lines and hitting marks in the asphalt. No one really around.

Bruce Springsteen getting arrested in New Jersey. Certainly never thought I’d see the day. For fucking drinking, something the guy barely does. Christ almighty.

 

It also goes away if you're Bruce Springsteen

 

You sound like a lawyer so I’m not going to try and sound like some genius here. But where he got caught is a federal property. Sandy Hook National Park.

 

The replies here are wild. On what planet can you take shots of tequila on/in a motor vehicle in front of authorities and think it’s okay?

It’s argued that the rich are able to just do whatever the fuck they want because they are rich. This is exactly a message that should be sent. Why should Bruce Springsteen be allowed to take shots of tequila on a motorcycle, but not Joe Schmoe? Just because it’s a .02 doesn’t make a difference. Can I drink a beer in the car because it will leave me below .08?

 

No, you can't, but you shouldn't get a DWI/DUI for it.

 

For the record, I’m more bothered by the way this was leaked/reported than the fact that Springsteen was pulled over or charged. There’s a big difference between what actually happened and what the assumption was when this news started breaking.

 

You shouldn’t get a DWI for drinking tequila on a motorcycle?

 

No, you should get a ticket for an open container. If you blow into a breathalyzer and you’re over .08, then you should. Otherwise what is the point of the limit?

 

the point I’m making is this. For everyone on earth, this is a DWI. It’s insane to me that people are coming to defense for him. If this was Kid Rock and he was in the exact same situation, are people trying to defend the action? What you’re suggesting is a very slippery slope. If I’m going out in my car, should I be able to have a beer while in the car? It’s not gonna put me over the legal limit.

 

No, you shouldn’t, but you SHOULD NOT GET A DUI.

 

Alright well at least you’re consistent and I can respect that.