Marvel's Loki (Disney+) TV Show • Page 17

i wonder if they bring a variant thanos back to help where he’s a homie

 

If I had my choice I’d take a break from Thanos only because he dominated so much of the recent MCU

 

Thanos showed up and delivered a villain that was one of the best of all time. I wouldn’t potentially ruin it by bringing him back.

 

This was good. I like wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff and this was very wibbly wobbly and timey wimey.

Frog Thor and Alligator Loki teamup adventure wen?

 

Really enjoyed the finale, especially because it looks like the aftermath will directly reverberate across future MCU movies. Through the first 3-4 eps, I really didn't think they were going to introduce Kang (well, technically they did and didn't ha), so I was legit shocked when Jonathan Majors appeared. Hell of an introduction to a character. I know nothing about Kang, so I wonder how Majors is gonna play the "big bad" version of him.

Loki > WandaVision > F&WS

 

he is, in ant man

 

I was less thrilled with the finale than most others here. Majors was excellent and it set up the MCU going forward really well, but I didn’t feel like it did enough to close out this individual story. It didn’t have enough standalone resolution. My guess is Season 2 will fix this since this is the first one not meant to be just a limited series and I need to adjust my expectations accordingly.

 

I think this was sort of my issue too. I definitely understand why they didn't want to come out of the gate announcing there would be a second season, but I think I had the mindset leading up to the finale that the story would be essentially concluded - setting up pieces for future events for sure, but mostly tying up the immediate story at hand. When that didn't really happen and we had our main 4 characters sort of scattered in the wind it was a "Huh?" kind of moment.

I still really enjoyed most of the show and I'm sure with the added context of the rest of Phase 4, season 1 will sit better with me. But damn, Marvel is really testing the general audience's ability to retain and care about all of this stuff haha.

My fiancé hasn't seen the finale yet but I'm super curious to see how she feels about it. She likes the MCU a lot but doesn't know a lot of the backstory from the comics. I think for those of us who knew Majors was set to play Kang, that first sequence when he appears had a built in excitement but for those who have no idea about the casting or who Kang is, I'm curious to see how that landed.

 

I loved this show. very positively surprised by it since I wasn't expecting much. Very excited for season 2.

 

Haven't seen Falcon & Winter Soldier just yet but I love that this and WandaVision are 100% committed to their respective "bits". Like they could have done "a Loki series" and it would have made all the money but sure, let's have a Loki series with the TVA and Owen Wilson and an entire episode dedicated to Richard E. Grant

 

There’s like no stand alone resolution in any of this movies haha

 

I don't know that I would go that far. There are some, like Infinity War for sure, that are entirely setup for the next thing - but I'd say that the majority of MCU films tell a fairly self-contained story but yeah generally leave a few threads out there for the next thing.

Just shooting off the hip, Loki S1 feels similar to Civil War in that it leaves the next steps for just about all the major players up in the air. But just thinking through a lot of the MCU - movies like Captain Marvel, GOTG, Dr. Strange, most of phase 1 - those all tell stories you can just jump into and feel pretty fully resolved come the time the credits role.

Anyways - hopefully I'm not coming across like a wannabe know-it-all haha. I just enjoy the discussion about this stuff.

 

If I were a betting man I’d say Kang will also be in Fantastic Four after he’s in Ant Man 3. Then he’ll be killed off, ending phase 4 and the repercussions starting off phase 5.

 

I think this is a "your mileage may vary" situation when it comes to what you consider "concluded" to mean.

Personally, I feel the main conflict and story for this season has been resolved. The four took down their version of the TVA, Sylvie got her revenge, and Loki's personal journey has clearly left him a completely different version of himself, closer to the version we had in Infinity War.

That all this has led to a much bigger conflict doesn't change that the old conflicts are over. It only feels less self contained because it's tying more sharply into the overall epic that's being woven here.

But I've kind of learned to accept that about the Marvel movies/shows. That's not to say it doesn't annoy me that threads are left dangling, but for me I recognize that's just a symptom of me wanting more, and wanting it now.

 

Leaving a season on a cliffhanger isn't exactly a Marvel thing to do; that's pretty common in TV in general.

 

I actually was saying yesterday to my family that the MCU is really like one big year-long TV series. It probably helps if you treat it like that. Each movie is an episode.

 

it's not even like that though, it's like comics. because it's based on comics...

 

That's totally fair. I do think the expectations for me played a large part (and to be fair that's not necessarily the show's or Marvel's fault).

If I had to pinpoint specifically within the show what was rough for me was the "starting over" element with Loki showing up at the new TVA and Mobius and B-15 (I think that's her number?) not recognizing him. Of course I don't know if "our" Mobius and B-15 are still out there, but if not that's pretty frustrating.

But overall, I do agree that it's really everyone's individual perception.

 

I meant how he's going to portray the character. I assume it will be at least somewhat different than how he played the character in Loki, or at least more evil.

 

In a way, yes, and in a way, no. It's better than comics in the sense that with comics, there's almost no guarantee of consistent continuity and each new writer will immediately undo the previous writer's changes to restore the status quo.

That's not to say they won't do that with the MCU eventually, but for now the MCU at least tries to have a pretty consistent continuity and the creators are all way more collaborative in making that possible.

Oh, I totally agree. I'm divided on that. I'd like to believe that Loki is just in a diverged timeline and his Mobius and B-15 are out there in another branch, but I also thought the point of the TVA was that it was outside the timeline and that's how they were able to operate...

Then again, it's entirely probable it only looked that way because He Who Remains kept pruning, and now that he's gone, there could be multiple TVAs again as new timelines grow out of control. It gives me some measure of hope to think that.

 

I mean its still technically the same continuity even if they completely shake things up. It's just got messier and messier as times gone on, the MCU hasn't had much of that issue yet as it's still small enough for people to easily oversee most of what happens but we've already had small stuff like Thor getting his eye back immediately after Ragnarok.

But mainly I mean that the movies are still more like separate comics than they are individual episodes of TV, they all come together to create a larger arc or story and they have events but they're still mostly self contained for the characters in terms of people watching them. You definitely don't have to watch every thing to follow the bigger narrative in the way you would with a series. You can pretty much pick and choose which characters interest you.

 

Ok but who is Kang

 

Funny since this ties into what we were just talking about, but I just read an article where Kevin Feige admitted they're probably going to need a whiteboard moving forward to keep track of continuity, now that they're entering the multiverse.