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Marvel Cinematic Universe Movie • Page 470

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by Melody Bot, Jan 11, 2016.

  1. Penlab

    Prestigious Supporter

    Why? We don't know that there wasn't an Uncle Ben, we just didn't need to see that event play out for the hundredth time. Do you really need that re-enacted?
     
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  2. Baddy Daddy

    The Worst But Best Person You Know

    It’s like Batman, we know his parents got iced in an alley but we got that from the launch, we don’t need to go back.
     
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  3. justin.

    請叫我賴總統 Supporter

    There’s problem a timeline where Tony gave Peter the “responsibility” speech before he died in Endgame
     
  4. RyanPm40

    The Torment of Existence Supporter

    Because he is fundamentally important to Peter Parker as a character. The fact that Peter had two movies without ever hearing "with great power must also come great responsibility" is insane. Uncle Ben's speech is the only reason he became a superhero! He was otherwise just exploiting his powers for cash in the comics until his death

    I would be 100% ok if we never saw Uncle Ben, but he should at least be talked about
     
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  5. Penlab

    Prestigious Supporter

    Comics Peter=! MCU Peter. It's not important that we see it play out. It's not important that we hear it talked about so a box can be ticked. The lesson can be demonstrated without having to see the same scene again and again.
     
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  6. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

    thinking about Marisa Tomei being a widow bums me out so I'm fine with it
     
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  7. Baddy Daddy

    The Worst But Best Person You Know

    Guaranteed she would’ve had a step Uncle Ben looking like fine wine like that.
     
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  8. justin.

    請叫我賴總統 Supporter

    Peter’s comments in Civil War were enough for me. I thought it was a solid introduction to MCU Peter.
     
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  9. Baddy Daddy

    The Worst But Best Person You Know

    MCU Spidey was done right imo, you drop him into the mix and just accept him as a part of the universe with no explanation.
     
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  10. RyanPm40

    The Torment of Existence Supporter

    I don't think that honoring something that is fundamental to who a character is at their core is just ticking a box haha. Tom's Peter just isn't for me, unfortunately. But, the movies are fun enough, and I'm glad others enjoy his movies more than I do
     
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  11. Greg

    The Forgotten Son Supporter

    I mean, he does hear the line from May. I’m not the biggest fan of MCU Spidey for how they did all that. But it is there.

    Before that happened though, I always found what Peter tells Tony in Civil War functionally served the same purpose. That if you see something wrong and have the power to stop it and you don’t, it’s on you.
     
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  12. Penlab

    Prestigious Supporter

    But what part is fundamental? The lesson. Everything else is honestly secondary, confusing the content for the container. At least that's how I see it.
     
  13. RyanPm40

    The Torment of Existence Supporter

    The lesson is supposed to be why he becomes a superhero in the first place though, not a couple years down the line. Idk. I don't like it haha.
     
  14. RyanPm40

    The Torment of Existence Supporter

    BUT I shall get off my soapbox and be grateful that there is such a large variety of great Spider-Man content to choose from that can satisfy anybody
     
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  15. Greg

    The Forgotten Son Supporter

    One could argue what he says in Civil War is a similar lesson. Which is weakened since they do the actual quote in NWH. And we don’t know if Ben was involved in what he says in Civil War, I think it can still serve as the reason to be a hero.
     
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  16. justin.

    請叫我賴總統 Supporter

    Russos did a better job writing Peter than Watts

    change my mind
     
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  17. RyanPm40

    The Torment of Existence Supporter

    That's true, and I agree. NWH just felt like they were ignoring that line in Civil War to me. I had made peace with that being an allusion to Uncle Ben. But NWH kind of erased that for me if that makes any sort of sense.
     
  18. Greg

    The Forgotten Son Supporter

    That’s just a fact.
     
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  19. RyanPm40

    The Torment of Existence Supporter

    Fuck yeah
     
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  20. Greg

    The Forgotten Son Supporter

    I hadn’t given it a thought about it until now. But I’m going to view it as that it was from Ben and it inspired him to be a hero. Then May’s is more focused about how he uses his power.

    Not sure if it holds up haha just had the thought. But that’s my current head canon at least.
     
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  21. RyanPm40

    The Torment of Existence Supporter

    I would be 100% on board with a solo Spidey film run by the Russos
     
  22. Penlab

    Prestigious Supporter

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  23. justin.

    請叫我賴總統 Supporter

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  24. MidDave

    Chorus' Least Grumpy Poster Supporter

    If I never hear “with great power comes great responsibility” again, I’ll be a happy boy.
     
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  25. justin.

    請叫我賴總統 Supporter