I was trying to be funny while referring to the fact that there's clearly ambiguity about what actually happened to Kang at the end and whether it was good or bad.
It amuses me how much people like to focus on the ants even though Kang seriously beat the shit out of Scott afterward.
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The Kang stuff I never found interesting. He would have been better as a one-off avengers villain, similar to Ultron. Let him show up in an avengers film but not be the big bad of the multiverse story. He’s just not intimidating. A guy that just gets killed or beaten over and over (but what, there’s ALOT of him). Nah, I’ll pass. Give me a villain who is an actually threat and not just an annoyance.
I mean, every villain gets beaten over and over, that's what they're for, but when you're dealing with timey-wimey shenanigans, Kang is the go-to villain for that. He's also the biggest Avengers-only villain besides Ultron. And the fact that he has multiple forms makes him uniquely suited to be the villain of multiple films. I stand by my take that Kang can and can STILL be great, but they gotta start taking advantage of the benefits of his character.
They were trying to make him the next Avengers level threat like Thanos which was never going to work. Let’s compare the two. Before Infinity War you know Thanos was behind the attack on new york, gave Stark PTSD and his paranoia which ultimately lead Stark to create Ultron, which then ultimately lead to civil war. You also knew Ronan feared him and that this was all from his space throne. Then the first 5 minute of infinity war they have Thanos but up Thor and Hulk and then kill Loki and Heimdall. Jump to Kang. The first 3 versions of him we’ve met all died and one was beaten by ant man and the wasp.
I think the way people digest and appreciate time travel/alternate reality stories is also pretty varied. I personally can’t get too invested in the stakes for a story that is framed as being in an eternal, inevitable loop and I don’t really get the satisfaction of arcs that are split between different variations of a character, whether in the MCU or any movies or stories. Similar to how I don’t consider it ‘immortality’ when someone clones themselves; the original guy still dies and his story dies, even if a 8th generation clone lives on in the far future. So, I can’t dig into a story that tries to handle the original guy and all his clones’ stories as one person’s arc. I would have liked if Kang was introduced more linearly at first, as Victor Timely or a less bad guy version, and contributed to some movies and then we watched as his variants start looming and the biggest and baddest variant appears and is ready to cause full damage right when the Avengers movies arrive.
To be fair, He Who Remains was supposed to serve that initial role, and I think he did to an extent, but I agree leaping right to Kang was an odd choice. Kang should have been the goal, not a goalpost. They should have done some lesser variants like Immortus or the Scarlet Centurion first, and been a little more cryptic about Kang to build up the mystique.
In the comics is H.E.R.B.I.E. known for yelling at, insulting, and gaslighting people over what initially were understandable mistakes or faux pauxs they could have easily overcame if they had simply apologized or admitted their mistake at the outset?
I doubt he'd get cast as a different character in the MCU. Considering how big of James Gunn guy he is in can see him in the DCEU. He would make a cool Darkseid.
Also virtually none of the villains recently have been interesting and calling any of them a deeper role is not how I would view it.