Marriage Story (Noah Baumbach, 2019) Movie • Page 9

Yeah, Charlie was arguably the protagonist just because we followed him through most of the movie, but I don't think the movie really tried to make him out to be the good guy. It's actually a great example of a toxic relationship that isn't overtly abusive. You can understand where he's coming from for parts of it (mostly his attention needing to be divided between his play and the divorce), but the movie didn't shy away from pointing out how entirely self-obsessed Charlie was that he didn't even consider sleeping with another woman cheating because "he could have done so much more, but was bogged down by marriage".

 

Oh yeah I’m not saying they made him out to be the good guy and her the bad guy, it was much more nuanced than that and I appreciated it not following so many other similar stories that have to have a villain. It’s just that after the first third or so I expected to follow each of them through the journey equally, and as you both said the rest of the film is largely told from his perspective. And for a character whose major motivation was finding her own voice and life and becoming a fully independent person/artist again, the fact that we didn’t get to see it happen along with her was disappointing.

 

Another aspect that I haven’t seen talked about very much that I LOVED was how well they portrayed the terrifying, frustrating, and dehumanizing aspects of legal proceedings. The way the lawyers “break character” and just go back to talking about their lives or ordering lunch because this isn’t personal for them is so real, and seeing how hard it was for the two of them to just silently sit there and try to process that happening was great.

 

Dern and Alda were perfect choices for that too.

 

This was exceptional.

Driver was incredible. My favorite scene was the lawyers going at each other in Derns characters office, and then pausing to order lunch. Everyone being cordial, and the exact opposite how they were just behaving. Then Nicole ordering for Charlie was great.

 

yeah, i liked that. and alda trying to order something and his assistant/paralegal/whomever correcting him

 

Definitely reminded me of dealing with my lawyer in my custody case, great part of the film imo

 

rewatching this with the intent of being more critical and instead am just doubling down on stanning the fuck out of it

 

That’s unfortunate. I remember their interview around the time Girls was popular, and they had great stuff in it. She always ask interesting questions.

 

Really not a fan of that article ending by mentioning that Bill O’Reilly stormed out on her.

 

it's cool to knowingly subject someone to something they have a phobia regarding, very chill stuff

 

If they knew he didn’t want to hear or see himself acting, or if he specifically asked them not to play it, and they did anyway then they’re jerks

 

I think it’s pretty well known. He’s been on that same show before and declined to listen to an audio clip of himself so I’m sure they were aware.

 

So he doesn’t watch the movies he’s in after they’re filmed, even at the premiere?

 

Not sure TBH. But I imagine there’s a huge difference in preparing mentally for something like that when you know you’re gonna have to encounter it vs blindsided in an interview

 

" saw the pilot of Girls with Lena [Dunham] on her laptop," he told the former in 2015. "And I was like, 'This is fucking terrible.' Not the show, but the experience." Since that episode, he stopped watching himself cold turkey. The release of Star Wars: The Force Awakens proved to be a challenge, as Driver had been a longtime fan of the series. "For a month leading up to it, I was like, 'I don't know if I can watch this,'" he said. "Thankfully I'm masked through a lot of it, so I could kind of hide that way. But it took a long time. I remember being sick to my stomach and almost vomiting in the theater at the premiere which was just... very disconcerting, really.”

He apparently hid in a green room during klansman

 

I wonder what he did with Last Jedi then. I totally get it, though, I’d hate it too.

 

Was that scene his idea

 

it’s a very good meal, i do it fairly often

 

Do you have sides or just the whole chicken?

 

i’ll usually do a small thing of green beans or asparagus, yeah. or do a half chicken and some sort of grain side, alternatively. i’m also taller/bigger than adam driver haha. it doesn’t seem like that “intense” of a meal imo.

 

Oh wow my mental image of you just made a huge shift. Especially since I’ve seen him in person and the idea of someone being bigger is intense, lol.

I’m a big fan of of that specific combo of foods, but when I have it the chicken lasts for a bunch of meals.

 

but are you as shredded as him @phaynes12 ????