Madame Web (SJ Clarkson; February 16, 2024) Movie • Page 25

This guy ended up being the last to leave the theater, maybe he was expecting a post-credit scene

 

did you actually sit next to him like a weirdo or did you move a few seats over

 

This post is very close to having a classic typed out penis.

 

This is a top 5 worst studio film I’ve ever seen. Just nothing makes sense…from the subway scene to the diner scene no more than 12hrs pass, but the Daily Bugle already has a front page story about the missing girls?!

And how is Cassie just going to Peru when she’s wanted for kidnapping?! How expensive is a flight to Peru at the walk up counter?!

 

Cassie somehow quickly flying to Peru and back while the girls hide with her coworker’s family, less than two years after 9/11, is very funny and good.

Boring people would call that a “plot hole,” but it actually rules. More cape flicks should be so audaciously dumb tbh.

 

I really strongly disagree. They should strive, for the bare minimum, competency.

 

I really tried to go into this openly, for Tim’s sake since they were so excited, but now the “it’s good, actually” just feels like a very very bad bit

but it isn’t and now I won’t trust Tim’s opinion on anything

 

i already knew not to trust it

 

I thought Ben had called an ambulance to the house before deciding he needed to just drive Mary to the hospital himself, but I'm fully choosing to believe that Mary's neighbor had an entirely unrelated medical emergency at the exact same time

That's so much more on theme for this movie

 

Yeah ben says “ok it’ll take a bit for an ambulance to get here”

 

I promise you, it’s not a bit, lol. At least not really (though there’s some degree of leaning into the fact that this is more my kinda shit than basically anyone else who frequents this forum).

And for the record, I did specifically say that, if the trailer didn’t look like something you would enjoy, you shouldn’t see the movie! It’s not hiding what kinda camp it is.

As for “competency” as you describe it, that only matters if you’re making a genuinely good and interesting genre film. Like if something like that happened in Dune Too, it’d take me out of it. But, I hold Dune Too to a different standard than I do, say, Deathstalker Too. If you’re not gonna accomplish something genuinely great, the next best thing you can do is make me chuckle to myself and say “what the fuck.”

 

I’m not sure I even believe in camp. I think bad is bad and “so bad it’s good” isn’t a thing

 

I can’t remember the exact sequence of events. I thought they were considering an ambulance and then decided against it? Wild if they changed their mind and didn’t think to say never mind on the ambulance.

Now I’m imagining Uncle Ben’s death being because they went, “this shit again???” and just took their time getting there.

 

It all just sounds like excuse making and confirming your prior feelings/tastes

was there even a single chance you wouldn’t like this film? Or did you think “oh I’ll like this” and then, consciously or not, refuse to give it more thought

 

…as in you do not believe it’s a real thing that exists…?

It’s a very subjective thing, and not for everyone, but that hardline a stance is genuinely insane to me, lol. Would be more respectable to say “I don’t think this movie qualifies,” or “camp isn’t for me.”

 

I specifically remember responding to a post, I believe yours, saying that I hoped the runtime wouldn’t be too much. And that the editing would be bad in a fun way instead of an off putting way to my tastes. I very much so have versions of bad that I do and don’t like and last minute worried I’d hate this and have to go, “bad news, y’all!” But, it happened to actually click exactly in the way I hoped at my most optimistic.

 

I think calling movies camp is a crutch/excuse for bad movies that you (the general you) want to like but know is bad

 

Things can definitely be ridiculous and not make sense and have that be part of the fun. I get what Tim's saying that what could drag down one film could be fun in another. It's all down to the specific vibe and personal preference.

 

Yeah I guess my preference is not “almost literal dogshit”

 

Don’t Tell Mom the Babysitters Dead and Troop Beverly Hills are camp…this is nothing of the sort. There needs to be some level of fun for it to be camp, there’s legit nothing fun about this.

 

To me, “so bad it’s good” is just a shorter way of saying something is “so bad but in an entertaining way.”

Like the obvious example is The Room. It’s bad on every level, but it’s funny how bad it is, so it has entertainment value to it, despite being shit.

For me, Madame Web is just bad. There are a few ideas and concepts I like, but as a whole, it’s boring. Did I chuckle at a few absurd things? Sure. But a few times in two hours is a really bummer time.

 

No because that assumes there is a universal bad and anything that goes against what is normally considered good is automatically bad which is boring.

People can make specific choices that could be considered bad in a lot of normal cases that work in others and are specifically fun because they subvert what's usual or expected.