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M. Shadows of Avenged Sevenfold Gives New Interview

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  1. Melody Bot Jan 2, 2025
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    M. Shadows of Avenged Sevenfold sat down for a lengthy new video interview. He talks about how the touring industry is really diffucult right now:

    “Touring is very hard right now for bands,” Shadows said [as transcribed by Blabbermouth]. “It’s almost impossible. And you’re also having a big downturn in ticket sales right now. People have been blown out by ticket prices, because of the touring, because of the inflation, so every single thing stacks on top. And then you’ve got people that are very upset about what ticket prices are, which I get. It’s kind of crazy to go see a couple of bands and it’s gonna cost you five, six hundred bucks, or if it’s country artists, it’s a thousand dollars, if it’s Taylor Swift, it’s $3,200, or whatever it is.”

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  2. fourstarters Jan 2, 2025
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    Another case of people conflating retail and resell. Taylor's issue was that demand outnumbered supply and people scalped affordable tickets for 10x. It's ironic that a band is commenting on ticket prices being inflated when they're also selling NFT's.
     
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  3. heymattrick Jan 2, 2025
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    Interesting article, I appreciate him being clear that artists do have a lot of say and that TM/LN are solely to blame. I don’t think people are gonna like his little comment at the end about “grinding for 6 weeks in Europe” and saying no to doing that.
     
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  4. heymattrick Jan 2, 2025
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    Agreed - I was lucky to see the Eras tour multiple times but only for face value, they were like $250 for good seats (but similar seats were being resold for $4000-5000).
     
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  6. crippledmark Jan 2, 2025
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    I feel like the production arms race is partly to blame, especially in the 1000+ capacity world. When you're bringing out arena level production like lasers, pyro, video walls, dancers, or 1975-style theatrical sets, costs go up. On top of crew, you need to add the extra buses, and tractor trailers that go into carrying that production.

    If you're a top notch performer, you can still put on an incredible show with a basic light package and a backdrop, and be quite profitable in the process.
     
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  7. Ryan Jan 5, 2025
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    Might be Spider-Man...

    Talking music, from a business standpoint is often hard for people to accept. I feel like for so many, fandom can make a persons favorite band or singer appear "greedy" or the bad guy when discussing business. But we often see it through fandom, not through that person paying for a car, a mortgage, for their daughters doctors appointment.
     
  8. sowrongitsryan Jan 5, 2025
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    He’s talking about dynamic pricing. He used Taylor as an example for his argument (but it was a bad example). But otherwise he’s right. Generally his point is - if Taylor had just used dynamic pricing, then she would have been the one to have gotten the bulk of money earned from ticket sales. Not some dudes on their couches hitting refresh. And most people would have generally supported that idea. But at the same time, people buying wouldn’t like how their tickets are be subject to market prices (as opposed to some kind of set msrp). Seems like we should just go back to paper tickets…