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Here's some Anarchist Feminist writings:
Woman Suffrage by Emma Goldman 1911
Voltairine De Cleyre | The Anarchist Library
Sex Slavery | The Anarchist Library
Marriage and Love by Emma Goldman 1914
Woman Suffrage by Emma Goldman 1911
The Economic Relations of Sex | The Anarchist Library
They Who Marry Do Ill | The Anarchist Library

One on nonviolent protest:
How Nonviolence Protects the State | The Anarchist Library

And here's a bunch of stuff I saved on riots/property destruction during Ferguson:
"Why do they burn down their own neighborhood?"
In Defense of Looting
You Are Not The Target Audience
Learning From Ferguson
When Rioting is Rational | Jacobin
The Nature of Police, the Role of the Left
In Support of Baltimore: Or; Smashing Police Cars Is Logical Political Strategy (this one is called "radf--" so the link might not work)
https://lumpenprolelife.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/they-canc3bct-stop-us-why-break-windows.pdf

Oh and of course my fav from the Situatuonist international:
Situationist International Online

 

So, so far I've mostly dumped a bunch of readings in here, but it'd be great of we had some discussions. I dunno how many people are here yet who are into this sort of thing, so I don't know how fruitful some type of organized reading group would be, but even without that I will be posting some thoughts or comments on individual articles posted here, I think. Or news events that are particularly relevant. Idk! I want this to be an active thread

 

gonna dig into yr posts over spring break and report back with thoughts

is Love As Arson here yet?

 

I haven't seen Dom here yet, no.

 

Awesome, look forward to it. I've been posting a lot of these as much for me as anyone - I've read a lot of what I've posted, but not all, and the tags on anarchistlibrary are super helpful for finding related stuff. Like, I definitely have to read more Voltairine.

And no, I dont think so. I know he's pretty busy building socialism and stuff but I'd love for him to come tell me about the necessity of the DotP and generally give different, better read and better worded and conceived perspectives compared to me. Heh.

 

@Dominick just posted this on AP as an intro to Marxism so I'm going to plagiarize it here lol:


Chris Harman: How Marxism Works (Introduction)
Socialism: Utopian and Scientific (Chpt. 1)
The Civil War in France
The State and Revolution
Hal Draper: Marx and the Dictatorship of the Proletariat (Summer 1962)
The conquest of the state by Antonio Gramsci 1919
Rosa Luxemburg: The Accumulation of Capital (1913)
Rosa Luxemburg: Reform or Revolution (1900)
Leon Trotsky: What Is National Socialism? (1933)
Hal Draper: The Two Souls of Socialism (1966)
Lenin: 1916/imp-hsc: III. FINANCE CAPITAL AND THE FINANCIAL OLIGARCHY
Works of Alexandra Kollontai 1921

The Georg Lukacs Internet Archive

 

Wharf Rat what was your AP un? feel like i haven't seen your name over there and i'm still trying to piece together who's who here haha

personally i sit somewhere around socialism with maybe a touch of anarchism. always love to read and learn more about stuff from people who know more though!

 

I was "Birdman"

sakarazu

 

oh good to see you here bby. rt on the Birdman request tho when's he gonna get here

 

if birdman joins i quit

 

Reimagining feminism on International Women's Day

Can America go socialist?

 

On Social Sadism:

"..there is something distinct about social sadism in modern capitalism, and in neoliberalism in particular. This is surplus cruelty in a specific sense, sadism supererogatory in relation to the – conjunctural, contested – ‘functional’ requirements of the system, a social formation characterised by the hedged, reversible, embattled but well-documented historical shift away from social punishment as overt – the qualification is crucial – spectacular, sanctioned, performative cruelty. The sociologist Norbert Elias, discussing punishment politics in 1939’s The Civilizing Process, described the adjustment of behaviour over hundreds of years according to ‘the expanding threshold of repugnance’. A socially stimulated sense of revulsion, that a growing field of acts are considered ‘uncivilised’, and – at least openly, at least proclaimedly – unacceptable.

This is not to buy capitalism’s bullshit about itself. Uncovering the dynamics behind this deeply uneven trend reveal it to be conditioned by subtler and no less ruthless power politics, to be a thin, fragile result of overlapping social pressures and powerplays, rather than because of any Whiggish dynamic to history. The concomitant diffusion of the state into the biopolitics of everyday life underlies its growing powers, including for repression, and sadism. Nor of course does the repugnant cease to happen. It may happen more. The politics of where and how become central."

On Social Sadism | Salvage


Re: Anarchism

They are people with whom I struggle with no question. Depending on the variant, I have noticed that there is a point at which it almost mirrors the pacifist conceptualization of undermining power, wherein moralism takes the place of tactical approaches to objective realities on the ground. The point is to conquer the state, not to reject "power" as an absolute evil. There's a difference between power deriving from people committed to a worker's democracy and bourgeois power. The refusal to make such a distinction from some portions of the anarchist left is problematic. With that said, I think anarchists lead the way in explicating how power runs all the way down and has helped to integrate this understanding as common-sense within any of the groups aiming to create a better world.

 

I notice this too, and I don't know if there is a good refutation of it. A lot of anarchists definitely fall into the traps of liberal anti-communist tropes and reject any kind of authority without a valid philosophical justification. And like you said they mostly make no effort to understand the difference between proletarian authority and bourgeois authority. It's funny that you compare that to the pacifist conception, though I think it is accurate, because the people that believe that stuff are in my experience mostly the hardcore individualist or lifestylist types, who are also closely related to the almost violence-fetishizing insurrectionaries.

I think the strain that most adequately addresses the idea of certain types of state or state-like power being justifiable are the syndicalists, who also happen to be the ones who have had the most successful revolutions with the largest and most organized base of members & armed members. I don't think I really fall into any such variant as such - I have been reading some about the syndicalist conception of post-revolution power and also some short marxist works on that and am finally going to get The State and Revolution any minute now (I promise). I admire the syndicalists for their organization and success but I also get a lot from people like the insurrectionary's ideas on riots on violence, the anarcho-communists who probably have the most developed philosophical tradition, and even the post-left critiques of leftist organization which are kind of validated by the fact that I've just listed like 5 different strains that all disagree with each other lol.

I definitely agree with the last sentence, especially the common-sense understanding part, but I think the grounding philosophy could be better conceived as a whole. I'm not well versed in philosophy in general but I think a lot of that analysis is based in logic and especially experiences that don't seem philosophically cogent to me even as just as an interested layman. It definitely isn't always materialist and is even liberally idealist at times - for example, the complete rejection of all authority like you talked about. That is fine on some level but it could be better.

I also need to try to understand what the hell platformism is at some point lol

 

Syrian Kurdish cantons to be replaced by federal system; Official

Not sure exactly what this means but it seems like the plan is Rojava being federalized within the post-war federalist Syrian state with some degree of autonomy comparable to that of Iraqi Kurdistan, while the cantons may or may not stay self-governing within the federal state of Rojava. Inevitable, but still kind of a bummer. The bookchinite, libertarian municipalist dream of Rojava was most definitely never going to happen, but it sucks to see them acknowledge it themselves. I imagine they'll keep supporting the PKK and whatever Kurdish groups are insurgent in Turkey, and I would be surprised not to see some similar capitulation by Turkey in the future

 

plan on delving into some of this stuff next week during my spring break. thanks for sharing it.

 

Althusser’s theory of ideology | International Socialist Review

 

power to the people

 

If anybody wants to read about the class struggle in Ireland and the socialist uprising we had in 1916 that our horrible bastard neoliberal government is celebrating then this is good: Ireland’s Unfinished Revolution | Jacobin

 

Said it on AP but I'll say it here too, really cannot recommend that How Nonviolence Protects the State paper that Ben posted enough

 

hi friends.

 

should we start a book thread in politics?

 

there is one, didn't seem to be too much interest. i think we went the wrong direction. could use something easier to read, not so heavy, etc. at least for the first one I think.

 

oh wow how did i miss it.

 

Subbin' and will hopefully get to some of those links once I'm done with finals in a couple weeks.

 

@Dominick I'm dumb and didn't save/remember any of the readings you recommended to me re: histories of the major attempted socialist states before Tate shut old AP down. So sorry to ask again but could you post them in here (at least the author/titles; I can find the actual texts on my own)?