This article has been imported from chorus.fm for discussion. All of the forum rules still apply. The New York Times: A gunman on a high floor of a Las Vegas hotel rained a rapid-fire barrage on an outdoor concert festival on Sunday night, killing at least 58 people, injuring hundreds of others, and sending thousands of terrified survivors fleeing for cover, in one of the deadliest mass shootings in American history. We need sweeping gun reform, and we need it now. Expand - View Original
The issue here isn't that we need gun reform. It's that we need more guns! Everyone in that place should have been armed. That would have made everyone safer! /s Our American society is advanced in so many ways...gun control is most certainly not one of them, unfortunately. Sadly, I have no idea how to fix the issue that so many guns are out there and in use by people, and people have ways to access/modify automatic weapons.
I feel terrible for the victims of this shooting. After all the shootings that preceded this one with no legislation trying to control gun violence, it feels like the nation failed them and their families. The US could always try what Austria did to try to prevent mass shootings. It's not guaranteed to stop the next shooting, but there is a chance it could. At this point even a chance to stop the next one of these would be better than the nothing that's been done so far.
I was a block and half away working the hockey game and came home an hour before the news began hitting my phone. This is unbelievable. It shakes me to no end that it was so close this time, but it shakes me even more to know that nothing will be done about it by people who should know better.
I just got home from Las Vegas 2 days ago, I went there to see a concert. Concerts are my safe place. This is so heartbreaking.
"Guns don't kill people, people kill people." things Americans need to stop saying (alongside "soccer").
A women from my town was killed. I didn't know her but still, what the fuck. This is a nightmare...every time.
I do not own any guns and am 100% for stricter laws, but I really don't think this is appropriate or necessary.
The hottest of hot takes I've seen on here in a while. I don't see the point in being needlessly inflammatory especially in times like this. Lots of ppl are angry as they should be and that anger needs to be directed towards organizations and politicians that enable and promote such a gun-happy culture.
Just got home from work, the Strip was so eerily quiet this morning. As someone who has lived in Vegas all my life I'm heartbroken rn
Horrible tragedy as always. I do agree though, we need some stricter regulations for guns. I'm all for banning certain types of guns, and increasing background checks. It's sad how it's easier to get a gun (and gun license) than it is to get a drivers license, and car. I think we also need some classes or 'scared straight' programs where they make potential gun buyers see how much devastation these things can bring (I got this idea from twitter years ago during one of the last shootings, I forget the wording, but it was great). That being said though, I unfortunately don't think there will be any way to outright remove guns from our country. Guns are so ingrained, that trying to remove them would potentially start the second american civil war. I hate that I had to type this last paragraph, but it's true.
I agree. And I think purchased guns need to have mandatory registration so someone can be held accountable in some situations like this in the future. I also think it’s a good compromise to have stricter regulations while also not eliminating the ability to own a gun completely.
This, and I tell people this and they run all this laws and litigation or just all this nonsense where it makes my eyes cross and I'm just there like "You still haven't told me WHY you need it. Just that are "entitled to it" under the law if they want it and all this BS.
As someone who doesn't live the United States, these attacks just seem like they could've been avoidable and while it's the offenders fault, it's also the fault of the governing body not making the gun laws stricter after one of the many attacks in years gone by. Like, why did the shooter have a machine gun? Why did he need it? Is this the right way to think? I feel like I'm being rather ignorant here.
I've gone to Vegas for concerts before and today people were telling me that I shouldn't do that anymore and I'm like ok but lbr if we stopped going to anywhere there's been a shooting we'd go like nowhere.It is terrifying to know that in the US nowhere is really safe. It's ridic cause I feel like so many Americans act like other countries are soooo dangerous and scary and ~foreign, but here u can get shot for just existing as a brown person or going to the movies or attending school. I went to a show on Saturday and security was more thorough than I'm used to at a venue that size and it made me sad and angry that it's so necessary to do here. It's ridic that instead of implementing reasonable gun control laws and banning certain types of guns we're gonna end up putting metal detectors and scanning wands and bag searches everywhere while never actually dealing with the problem.
It's kind of like people in Barcelona not going back to Las Ramblas after the attack, like that's ever going to happen. It's their biggest tourist attraction, which is why it was the target of the attack. It's a sad set of circumstances that places where people have so much joy, are the subject of such attacks.