Killers of the Flower Moon (Martin Scorsese, October 6, 2023) Movie • Page 28

I have a few reservations but yeah this was still fantastic which is unsurprising.

The ending's radio show scene really took me out. I appreciated the creativity I guess and maybe I'm missing some message behind it but I would've prefered to stay with the actual characters.

 

radio show felt like a reflexive moment with Scorsese laying it in that even this presentation of the story is skewed by the perview of the white man, the FBI and sponsored by a corporate entity (in this case apple).

One of his strongest endings

 

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This definitely happened at my showing. Movie was fantastic though, De Niro is def getting that SA Oscar.

 

I could hear the Taylor Swift showing through the wall of my theater, kinda sucked

 

Heard Taylor Swift through the walls when I saw Stop Making Sense, thankfully didn't have that issue with Flower Moon

 

This is an incredibly sad film and might be my new favourite of his.

 

I couldn't clearly hear Taylor but the bass was definitely booming at times.

 

this was great, don't think Leo had the strongest grasp on this character and his performance was just alright but Lily Gladstone is the performance of the year and DeNiro was also fantastic

"get your pencils" underrated laugh line and delivery

 

cape fear is great wtf

 

Wolf of Wall Street and once upon a time are Leo’s best performances

 

The radio show ending is Scorsese damning true crime shit, and pretty much any attempt at an artistic depiction of the real kind of horror that humanity is capable of doing.

That radio show felt like a childish depiction of the whole event compared to the brutal, unglamorous movie Scorsese made, but if that’s true then surely there has to be something else fundamentally missing from Scorsese’s depiction as well, and he knows that

 

I could hear Taylor so well through the walls that I was identifying songs

https://boxd.it/51Agn7

 

Those 2 and Catch Me If You Can have been my top 3 Leo performances but this one is really great as well and up there.

 

no Taylor but someone brought a baby but I was more impressed than mad about that

 

The criticism of Fraser confused me and seeing the clip again, I feel the same. He’s clearly playing a lawyer who is putting on a show. He’s intentionally acting in an exaggerated way

 

The audience went nuts when Fraser exploded into the scene

 

Intentional can still be bad

 

Non-spoiler rapid-fire thoughts. I'd read the book but had honestly forgotten most of it:

-The layers of commentary here—the nature of art and storytelling, our collective blank-faced consumption of true crime, the stain of white European-American exceptionalism—are just so effortlessly weaved into the fabric of the narrative. On paper it sounds like this would be overwrought and buckle under the weight but every single scene is just filled with sublime subtext that raises the emotional stakes.

-The entire perspective and construction of this feels like a rebuttal to the classical Western that Scorsese grew up adoring. Looking at the films of John Ford in particular, where the whites are unambiguously hailed as heroes of every Native American story, there's something truly revolutionary about a global ambassador for cinema creating an American Western that throws away how Hollywood has always told this story.

-Seeing Leo and DeNiro just crush scenes together with Scorsese directing is such a blessing. That being said, I think Lily Gladstone outdid them all. So much of having what Marty is trying to say actually land is dependent on her performance and she brings it, oftentimes just through expressive acting with only her face. Amazing that she was about to quit acting forever until Marty asked for a meeting with her.

-Speaking of Leo and DeNiro, the Freemason lodge scene is just a work of art. It literally looks like a painting dipped in darkness. Compare Marty's filming of the white people in these dark interiors with how he frames the Natives: bathed in natural light, existing happily among nature.

-The movie is almost oddly quiet but I think it fits. Shady people doing shady things in darkness in an ashamed, whispered register. I did also hear a ton of bass from The Eras Tour movie a theater over but thankfully was able to tune it out.

-Robbie Robertson's score, the last music he made, is such an understated beauty. The way it simmers underneath a scene for minutes and minutes on end, like oil ready to burst from the earth, is such an eerie form of punctuation to the deceptive games characters are playing with each other. RIP Robbie, been on a massive Band kick since he passed.

-The pairing of the final two scenes: simply incredible, and maybe the ballsiest thing Scorsese has ever done. What a way to end this film.

 

It can. But it isn’t for his performance here

 

I'm biased and acknowledge that and came in with my mind already made up but god damn what a performance and I don't care how good the nominees are, it's gotta be Gladstone. Easily one of the best performances in recent memory.

 

I know there was discussion about Marty making Ernest too sympathetic but I didn’t think he was sympathetic at all. He was a terrible despicable person.

 

so fucking good. the scene where she found out about Rita felt like it cut me into thirds

 

The only second I felt anything for him was when his kid died.