Justice League (Zack Snyder, November 17, 2017) Movie • Page 20

Wow, I didn't even know that happened. Real sad.

 

Oh my goodness, so tragic. I hope the family is doing as well as can be expected in such horrific circumstances.

Also, I really hope people are respectful of Snyder as a mourning human being at this time.

 

Terrible. I had the opportunity to be a PA on BVS and Zack Snyder was honestly wonderful to work for. He took time to speak to the PAs and take care of us in ways I haven't seen from other directors. It genuinely meant a lot and I was grateful to have the chance to work for him because I have worked for others that...definitely don't do that. My heart goes out to him and his family.

 

Fuck. That's just awful.

 

Thoughts are with him, I can't imagine going through that.

 

Such a bummer to hear this.

 

Damn

 

A little more info here:

Zack Snyder Steps Down From 'Justice League' to Deal With Family Tragedy

 

Some close-ups of the JL costumes.

 

I think I'm most excited about Aquaman.

 

Aquaman is gonna rule.

 

I wish I was excited for any of it

 

Aquaman and Wonder Woman could be cool, maybe Flash as well, but DC stumbled out of the gate so hard that I can't really muster up anything beyond passing interest.

 

I'm expecting this to be an absolute mess quite honestly but I'm still going to check it out opening weekend lol

 

It's so sad about what happened with the Snyders and also that something like this needed to happen before people stopped the hyperbole hate.

A Snyder/Whedon collaboration sounds so awesome on paper, I just wish it was under better circumstances.

 

Is it really a collab? He's just doing post. I doubt anything in the script changes unless there are some massive reshoots.

 

From what I understand Snyder is not coming back at all for this film, so Whedon is in charge of doing what he wants with the reshoots and the final edit of the movie. That's what I'd assume. As much as I love Snyder, I think a fresh pair of eyes, esp with Whedon's sensibilities will be a good thing. I would assume he gets a director title in the credits too. Does that sound off base?

 

I don't remember reading that Snyder's involvement was completely shut off.

 

Reshoot directors don't typically get credit as co-director, and they said Whedon is working closely within Snyder's style and vision. I'm sure Whedon's fingerprints will be obvious in places, but it's still gonna be totally a Snyder film, with all that entails.

The sad thing is, if you had told me under literally any other circumstances that Whedon was helping punch up this film, I'd be ecstatic. I personally love his one-liner-driven writing style, which would be a great way to inject more charm into Snyder's often sterile directing style. Having Whedon actually direct some of those scenes is a good way to make sure his contributions aren't poorly executed (see: the first X-Men film).

Now, however, we're in this ugly territory where this filmmaker, whose work receives some justified malice, has suffered an unthinkable tragedy that no human being should have to deal with. And, his replacement is the man behind the Avengers. And, comic book fans can get disgustingly malicious: Comic book writers like Superior Spider-Man's Dan Slott have gotten death threats online severe enough for the authorities to have to step in. I think Snyder's personal tragedy is bad enough to keep most responses respectful, but I wouldn't be shocked if at some point news broke of some scumbags online telling Snyder they're happy about what happened.

Right now, I care a lot more about Snyder and his family finding some peace in this tragedy than I do about how this film with some rich guy dressed as a bat turns out, and anyone who doesn't is a monster. Long term, I hope Snyder gets to do whatever project next that he wants, and regardless of the artistic merits of said project, I hope the creative process helps him work through all the hurt he's carrying now.

 

I think I remember reading somewhere that Snyder wanted to do a war film after Justice League. I think that'd be an awesome choice, and for him to get away from comic book movies for awhile.

 

He's not shut off, but he described this as him removing himself completely from all duties going forward. Like, he initially just had Whedon assisting him behind the scenes, but now all reshoots and post production is out of his hands. If he feels emotionally fit to jump back in, no one will stop him, but it currently sounds like he's 100% hands off for the sake of himself and his family.

 

I heard that WB offered to delay the film so he could continue on it (which is such a great move on WB since they have so riding on this movie, hats off to them) and both Snyders declined. To me that means he won't be back in time to really do anything on the movie before release right?

I had no idea he helped on X-men, that's cool. I also have never heard of this case happening before, so my thoughts on him getting a co director credit is based on nothing. He has to get credited some way though right?

 

He contributed rewrites to a script that he thought needed more than just some punching up, and then much of his work didn't make it into the final product. And, one of his lines was notoriously botched: He wrote Storm's line about lightning or whatever to Toad but intended the delivery to be totally different.

I know that the Fant4stic reshoots were done by someone else, though that was a messy situation. I think I've heard of that happening elsewhere, too. Some script contributions go uncredited, too (I think Whedon helped tweak stuff last minute while Thor 2 was shooting). I feel like Whedon will be credited somewhere, but I don't think it'll be "directed by Zack Snyder and Joss Whedon" or anything.

 

Oh no! So Whedon was responsible for the famous "The same thing that happens to everything else" line. Too funny. I think if he were on set to see her deliver it, he probably would have stepped in and corrected it.

Oh yeah, I don't think it'll be a directed by Zack Snyder and Joss Whedon title, maybe an assistant director I did hear he flew in for a day to help on the Thor 2 script because the director couldn't make something work on set. The F4 thing..........geez, I'd love to see a documentary on it in a few years where everyone opens up about it. Like in the vein of The Death of Superman Lives, What Happened?