John Gruber on the iPhone SE

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  1. Melody Bot

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    John Gruber, writing for Daring Fireball, reviews Apple‘s upcoming 4-inch iPhone SE.

    For anyone with an iPhone 5S (or older) who has been holding out on an upgrade in the hopes of a new top-tier “small” iPhone, the iPhone SE is cause for celebration. If you are such a person, run, don’t walk, to buy one. You will be delighted.

    If you’ve already upgraded to an iPhone 6 or 6S and have made peace with the trade-offs of a larger, heavier, less-grippy-because-of-the-round-edges form factor, the appeal is less clear. Me, I talk the talk about preferring the smaller form factor, but ultimately I’m a sucker for top-of-the-line CPU/GPU performance and camera quality.

    If I knew that there would be top of the line updates to this sized phone each year, I think I’d go back to the smaller size, but without knowing for sure, it’s too hard to make that call.

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  2. sean_rugy

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    I don't think I could ever go back to a smaller iPhone but then again, I'm not the target audience. the SE makes sense for those holding on to the 5, like my girlfriend who loved her 5s.
  3. Chris Yates Apr 1, 2016
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    Chris Yates

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    I went and took the huge leap back from a 6+ and couldn't be happier. Seriously, it's amazing. I just hope they keep releasing this size, but only time will tell.

    Also, I love John Gruber.
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  5. js977

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    I bought a 5s when the 6 came out because a) it was cheaper and I jumped to 32g, and b) the size. I'm a bigger guy, but anything larger than the 5s feels obnoxious to me.
  6. Chris Yates

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    One thing I didn't see Gruber bring up is the battery life. It's markedly better for me so far than I remember my 5s being.
  7. subplotofcrows

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    Probably will upgrade to the SE from my 5S. Just wish the SE had the faster Touch ID upgrade that the 6S has.
  8. Chris Yates

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    You'd think so, but as Gruber says in that write-up, it's nice because you can press the home button without it unlocking so fast, if all you want to do is look at the lock screen. Not that I dislike the new Touch ID though. It's incredibly fast.
  9. subplotofcrows

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    Yeah I guess that's cool. I have an Apple Watch so I only go to my phone to get into it but I can see that advantage.
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  10. Jason Tate @jason_tate @encorepodcast Staff Member

    Another good point.
  11. js977

    i love the new painted charisma Supporter

    Does anyone think losing 3D Touch is a deal breaker? It seems really cool but if I don't know what I'm missing, then that's good I suppose
  12. Chris Yates

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    I didn't use it a ton, so it's not a deal breaker for me, but everybody's different. What isn't a deal breaker for me, may be for you.
  13. sean_rugy

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    wow, massive leap. glad to hear you are enjoying it.
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  14. The Grey Man


    Definitely going to jump from my 5s to this
  15. Brandon Allin

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    I like that they introduced the 4" back into the lineup, but after owning a Plus, I don't think I could ever go back.
  16. Chris Yates

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    Not a flip phone obviously, but this gif popped into my brain the moment I took it out of the box

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  17. Jacob

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    I have the 6s and I'm perfectly content with it's size. After having used the 4s for two years I definitely appreciate the extra screen space. To me, the 6s and 6s+ sizes are great options enough and I can't imagine needing something smaller/bigger but to each their own.
  18. polyfilla

    who can never be sure

    Interesting. Makes sense... I have a 6 but I wish I had a 6+/6s+. I can't imagine upgrading(?) to a smaller phone.
  19. Aj LaGambina

    Hey man, we all can't be like you Supporter

    Torn. As a former Galaxy S4 owner: (currently have an iPhone 5 since the Samsung shattered) I figured I'd end up upgrading to a 6s because I like the screen space. The SE might end up being more cost effective though.
  20. sammyboy516

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    Jason, how does the article discussion subforum work? Is a forum here automatically created every time a news post is made or does someone have to come here and make a thread for a news post they want to open a discussion about?
  21. Jason Tate @jason_tate @encorepodcast Staff Member

    It's made automatically with every new news post on the site.
  22. sammyboy516

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    Very cool! I'm sure you've written about this somewhere but I think that's a really good way to solve some of the issues that come with posts that are toxic/contribute nothing on news articles. If you care enough to read on the home page then go into forums and respond in the corresponding thread you're more likely to contribute something somewhat meaningful. And even if people don''s in a separate spot and doesn't detract from the site's home page.

    Also - the fact that posts save as drafts while you're composing them is a really nice touch - just caught that.

    Anyway, thanks - don't mean to derail the thread.
  23. Jason Tate @jason_tate @encorepodcast Staff Member

    Pretty much my exact thoughts. Well said all around. Smart man.

    Yep! (And they work across devices, start writing on mobile, finish on the desktop.)
  24. Aj LaGambina

    Hey man, we all can't be like you Supporter

    I did not catch that. Excited to try.
  25. Jason Tate @jason_tate @encorepodcast Staff Member

  26. Aj LaGambina

    Hey man, we all can't be like you Supporter

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