I couldn’t name off a single Manchester Orchestra song, but I think it’s a safe bet that Jimmy Eat World is bigger and much more of a household name.
Manchester Orchestra has had more recent mainstream success, but they've never had anything as big as "The Middle" or "Sweetness".
I’m not asking this in a condescending or insulting way at all, but have MO actually had mainstream success? Again, maybe it’s just a regional thing, but I don’t think they’ve ever been played on the radio or anything up here
they're on, at best, like a XMU type station. not generic alternative rock in your hometown radio. several JEW songs are ubiquitous in the culture
I mean Mean Everything to Nothing was a pretty huge album. I don't have numbers but I know people outside my usual "scene friends" listened to it and loved it.
overall over the span of their careers of course jimmy has had more 'mainstream success' but if the gap was as wide as you all are letting on this co headlining tour never would have happened let alone with very specific dates for who closes out the night, which i mentioned i think in the MO thread is likely based on regional analytics both bands' teams have access to.
Jimmy is a bigger band than Manchester in terms of like overall chart and commercial success but both bands can and have sold out the venues they’re currently playing so that’s why it’s a co-headline tour a lot of fan intersection at my Indy date but the crowd was super into Jimmy
It’s a fair question. I feel like they’ve charted well recently and I’ve heard The Gold on non-indie stations (though that’s just anecdotal evidence obviously). As others have pointed out, they’re big enough to co-headline with Jimmy Eat World so they’re decently popular I guess. I don’t know what the cutoff for mainstream is though.
I’m a big Manchester Orchestra fan, but I feel like there is no argument that Jimmy is bigger. Just looking Spotify stats, Jimmy has 9.8M monthly listeners while Man O has 3.1M. Hell, Manchesters most popular song on Spotify is Phoebe Bridgers covering The Gold
MO probably moves more tickets nowadays as I think they have a more dedicated fanbase but Jimmy clearly has more songs your average music listener knows.
if theres no argument why was this a coheadlining tour with specific bands headlining specific dates and fans from different areas chiming in to say one or the other had a much bigger reception?
not to mention the undeniable fact (again, my favorite band of all time here) that jimmy eat world is pretty much a legacy act and those 9.8m monthly listeners are mostly listening to songs 20+ years old. dont get confused im not saying MO are bigger than JEW but i think they're big in a different way and clearly big enough to warrant a coheadliner where they actually close out shows without crowds clearing out after JEW (at least not at my date where they closed). ultimately my point is that ive seen plenty of mismatched coheadliners in my day and from what ive heard from other people and my own personal experience at the show this was not that so the argument of who's bigger seems.....moot
i second this, i dunno any MO songs. first time i listened to them was this year, and it was a jimmy eat world cover, i listened to it once,
I loved their first two albums and liked their third. I fell off after that. I’m guessing the rest are worth checking out based on the talk in here.
Aside from "who is bigger" I am still amazed that the show I'm attending on Wed (5500-capacity venue) isn't sold out, I thought this tour would have been a slam dunk but I guess there isn't as much crossover as I thought as evidenced by this thread.
I won’t say who I think is better. But JEW should have a 3 hour set regardless of if they close or not.