Jimmy Eat World - Integrity Blues (October 21, 2016) Album • Page 49

you should stop knowing those people

 

I think there are two or three seamless transitions

 

There are ways to capture a stream from your computer, just in case you wanted to have the files for on the go listening. I don't know how easily I'd review an album if I had to listen to it via a stream every time. Listening portably like in the car and things always makes up a big way of how I get into an album. I don't really know how it's in the band/label's interest to send out streams anyway.

 

I was looking at the top Spotify streams for JEW. It's interesting that Hear You Me is tied with Sweetness with 20 mil~ plays. It's possible that some of those plays are incidental since Hear You Me is the next track after Sweetness, but it can't be a huge portion of those plays. Interesting.

 

"Hear You Me" was featured in a bunch of movies and TV shows. It's a pretty well-known song too.

 

I always think of Hear You Me as JEW's second-most well-known song after The Middle. It's a well-known song because of a bunch of soundtracks that it's on, including that Princess/Cinderella film whatever it is with Hilary Duff. Most people I know have heard of Hear You Me even if they don't know JEW.

Edit: Beat me to it @Craig Manning

 

I mean yeah ofc there are ways to do that but since it's watermarked it would be a bad Idea to do that. Idk the stream is mobile friendly I've been fine driving around listening to it

 

And yeah there's a couple good transition on the new record

 

That would make more sense then. I didn't realize any casual listeners would even know the song.

 

Apparently "Hear You Me" was featured in Out Cold, A Cinderella Story, The Butterfly Effect, and Van Wilder, as well as an episode of One Tree Hill. What a weird list...

 

Hear You Me was on The Butterfly Effect too back when the entire planet was humping Ashton Kutcher's leg. It's really surprising to me still that Jimmy Eat World never blew up, they're exactly the kind of band that should and so many from this scene have.

 

Maybe style has something to do with it. Or lack thereof. They were never trendy. Partly why I like them.

 

Sadly yes. I actually had two separate conversations with friends about JEW recently and they both responded saying they were one hit wonders and weren't aware of any music they've put out since 2003.

But on a positive note one of those friends heard Sure and Certain on the radio and absolutely loved it.

 

That's how it is when I talk to people about how great Hanson is. They just assume they stopped making music after "MmmBop" .... Ugh

 

On that point, does anyone here actually know how watermarks work? I'm interested in how they work. As far as I can find online, they encode an inaudible fingerprint in the audio of the file, so that fingerprint maintains even when the file is converted or compressed. I wonder if it's little peaks of sound at certain frequencies that are so quiet that you can't hear them, or if they are peaks that only occur outside of the human hearing range. If they occur outside the human hearing range then they should be able to be removed by low-pass filtering. If they're within the frequency range, I wonder if it's possible to take two of the same song with different watermarks and sum them together to blur the watermark, or more likely do some phase-cancellation tricks to get rid of the watermarks entirely. Sorry, off-topic here, just find the technology interesting. Probably whoever invented the technology has it under lock and key to ensure its efficacy.

 

Hanson is one of the few pop rock bands who can rival Jimmy in terms of consistency of output

 

Definitely. I wish more people would give them a chance with an open mind.

 

going to have to check out some hanson then because the only song i know is the mmm bop one. what's their best album?

 

My favorite is The Walk

 

I'm also interested. Just read this (from Wikipedia), which may clarify why you can't just use a LPF.

"The watermark is spread over many frequency bands so that the entergy in one band is undetectable. An interesting feature of this watermarking technique is that destroying it requires noise of high amplitude to be added to all frequency bands. SSW is a robust watermarking technique because, to eliminate it, the attack must affect all possible frequency bands with modifications of considerable strength. This creates visible defects in the data."

 

thanks. thats interesting. still, if the watermark is different between two different copies, i do wonder if it would be possible to obfuscate it with phase cancellation, at least eliminating all components of the signature that are unique to either file. not that that would be worth it for the very few individuals who would have two different advance copies of an album. anyway, thanks for the info.

 

My favorite is Underneath, but Shout It Out is a lot of fun.

 

I like TW bc it's the most rock oriented, but Underneath is a close second. Can't go wrong with anything since TTA tho. Super underrated band

Also you guys are not ready for the number of times Jim says "fuck" on this album. twice

 

I think The Walk is probably my favourite. That, Underneath and Shout It Out all have a handful of songs I love and some I don't really care for though. I didn't like their last one much at all.

 

yeah honestly those really surprised me