I only read about all this yesterday, so I haven't had much time to process all of this. Like pretty much everyone here, Brand New has been a pretty big part of my life, so this one hurts pretty bad. Of course, I'm also well aware that my feelings as a fan are largely irrelevant. It's the victims that matter here. I don't want to lose sight of that. In the debate of whether or not I can continue listening to the band. Probably not. I thought I could, but I've been thinking back on all these songs now and it's just impossible to separate the two now. Basically Lostprophets all over again for me. That band meant a lot to me when I was, but I haven't listened to them since everything with Watkins was revealed. It sucks to give up something important to you, but given time it's not as hard as it sounds. I always thought "Me vs Maradonna vs Elvis" was supposed to be chastising of men who behave this way. And sure, maybe Jesse was lashing out at himself in that song. But the stories of the victims put the timeline of all this way past the release of Deja, so it's pretty clear he never changed. What was once a powerful song to me is just a flat out lie now. Imagine being one of the victims and hearing that song. It's like he's openly bragging about it to them. And his "apology" is pathetic. He says that was the old him and he's been better for a while now. Well, then why the hell does "In The Water" have a callback to "Maradonna" ("hide your daughters, the old men say, we were young once before, we know how we get our way") in it? Again, imagine being a victim and hearing that lyric today. And then he's acting like he's the victim in all this? I think most men would be lying if they said they haven't contributed to this toxic environment in someway, myself included. But in order to build a better, safer world we have to own up to our behaviors. If you've done something wrong, turned a blind eye to this type of behavior, turned stuff like this into a joke, realize you've hurt or made a woman (or really just any fellow person) uncomfortable in anyway then admit your guilt, apologize to those you've wronged and do better going forward. Don't expect forgiveness either. Not everyone should be forgiven. Chances are you don't deserve it. But you better be sorry. Sincerely sorry. Don't try to brand yourself as the one who is hurting.