This is /thread basically. This site and the whole scene itself was so elitist since day 1. It can be seen here clearly as well from having opinion that differ from the mods/owners of the site on this case or liking or not an album subjectively against the elitist reviewer opinion, and if you dare to disagree with it all you get personal online abuse. These are the same people who cried themselves into sleep during tautou every night in 2003.
Literally no one cares if you listen to brand new! Just don’t act like you’re a victim for doing so. It’s so fucking weird.
Yeah Even If He Did It, Jesse Has Been Beaten Senseless In The Court Of Public Opinion To The Degree That The Punishment No Longer Outweighs The Crime, Especially Considering His Retreat From The Public Eye. Isn't He Married With Children Now?
I tend to find in my life that if you’re constantly complaining about everyone being elitists, you probably just suck more than most.
The amount I engaged with you in good faith and had actual conversation with you (which you ignored) is enough that you should shut the fuck up about this. Just get out. I'm over this whole "yeah this person raped a bunch of kids but people were MEAN to me ONLINE because I still like them" get the fuck over yourself and grow up
Okay but I gotta ask, is the only qualifier for group 2 the fact that some time has passed? Is that it? “X number of years have gone by he can have his platform back” is your sole measure of when a second chance is deserved? If thats the case, that is wild to me. No work has to be done? Forgiveness by the survivors is not required? No actions on Jesse’s part is necessary? It’s just the fact that it happened a while ago is enough? “Madoff should be able to run the stock market again, he was in jail for years, he deserves a second chance” (if madoff wasn’t dead of course)
Why are you Typing Like This in All Your Posts? Again, if you're unable to read his post, and this one: Abuse of Power and the Legacy of Jesse Lacey and still pretend you "need proof," what you are doing is lying to yourself to make yourself feel better about your actions. Again, free yourself to listen to the music, no one really gives a fuck, but stop lying to yourself that the person that made the music somehow didn't actually do the things they admit to doing and are very, very credibly accused of doing. You don't need to defend the actions of someone that made some music you like by being a stereotypical victim blaming ass online. You can just listen to the music and understand "yeah, that person did some bad things." I promise you'll end up being a more enlightened, and better, person for it.
Who Hasn't Done Bad Things? And Again, There Is No Proof Because There Are No Videos Or Emails. Jesse Never Said He Groomed A Teenager, Etc...
Madoff did a crime, jesse was accused in middle of the metoo which later in mulriple, and never convicted. Kinda different Now he even raped anyone, thats new to me. You were elitist since your first engagement with me, but i guess you just operates that way.
The More I Hear, The Less I Believe Any Of It And More I Think It's A Targeted Attack By People Slighted By The Band In Some Monetary Or Clout Chasing Way.
I feel like to make this argument you should be forced to say what that "opinion that differ" is. Please, spell it out specifically. Because the opinion a lot of people are expressing here is: it's fucked up the band didn't stop people from harassing women, it's fucked up the band didn't take real accountability, and maybe they shouldn't get to pretend nothing happen and just carry on. What is the opinion of those that differ? Which part, specifically, do you have an issue with on those opinions? It's easy to obfuscate behind "an opinion is different," so I'd actually like to know what part of the "opinion" differs?
You didn't respond to any argument points because you knew I was right and hid like a fucking coward and responded to everyone else and then said "no one talked to me nicely enough!!!!!!" Eat shit, if me having a conversation with you is "too elitist" then yes I will get personal. This is a personal subject. People were destroyed
The difference of opinion is that y'all believe it's okay to convict someone without a trial and hold them as guilty for an indeterminate amount of time based on the court of public opinion.
Did you eat paint chips as a kid? Like what the fuck is this shit. Everyone attempted to talk to you in good faith, if it's not going to come back equally then get out?