i've seen them live, so on some level, there's no judgement, but to act like they're not the same quality of HH is a little weird to me on some level, too. breaking benjamin is my 2000s buttrock gold standard so we know my takes are hot and steaming piles of shit
i've seen all of these bands in question live during my college years. chevelle put on a great show. i used to love BB as well. hawthorne heights were absolutely terrible live. i would still go to bat for a couple of early BB albums too
they were at the time. i prob saw them 3 or 4 times lol. sadly the band i've seen the most number of times is seether theres one @Colby Searcy