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It: Chapter 2 (Muschetti, September 2019) Movie • Page 28

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by jmwhit04, Jun 20, 2018.

  1. imthesheriff

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    Yeah it was still terrible and I hated most of this movie haha
     
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  2. zachmacD

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    To the directors credit though, Mike alone could've had his own 5 hours movie. I don't think there's anyway to do some aspects of the book justice
     
  3. EASheartsVinyl

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    I want justice for Will maybe even more than justice for Mike. He’s easily a top five secondary character, and they don’t even give him the dignity of a name in these.
     
  4. Night Channels

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    While I really didn’t like how Henry Bowers was handled in the first movie, it’s very clearly explained why he is the way that he is.

    His dad literally shoots a gun at his feet and is obviously abusive.
     
  5. zachmacD Sep 12, 2019
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    zachmacD

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    Agree to disagree. Not that it was the healthiest way to teach him a lesson, but that's how I took it. Henry was going to shoot a cat for christs sake and his father stopped him from doing so
     
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  6. Night Channels

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    Uh okay
     
  7. EASheartsVinyl

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    That’s a big oof.
     
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  8. Kuri44

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    “Nothing like a little fear to make a paper man crumble”

    The Truth
     
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  9. Zach

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    I remember when my dad shot a gun at my feet because he was pissed.

    I really felt the love that day
     
  10. Kuri44

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    He caught his son about to kill a cat with his own gun while putting his friend in mortal danger at the same time, (and imagine he found out About carving Ben up with a knife). I consider shooting at the ground to scare him in front of his friends a pretty lenient punishment :shrug:
     
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  11. RyanPm40

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    I don't think Ben went to the police about being carved up and there are plenty of hints that the father is abusive
     
  12. zachmacD

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    That's why he said " imagine he found out About carving Ben up with a knife".
     
  13. RyanPm40

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    Yes, implying that he believes that he found out about it, which I think is false
     
  14. EASheartsVinyl

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    I know not everyone has read the book, but Butch Bowers is almost as evil as Pennywise and defending anything he did to Henry is super gross. I can’t believe they dropped the ball so hard with his character that this is even a passing thought.
     
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  15. zachmacD

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    If you're familiar with the rot in Derry and all the awful stuff that happens there, the father shooting at his feet because he's about to shoot a cat/possibly his friend doesn't stick out to me as being abusive but I understand that perspective if you haven't read the book. Especially when compared to Beverly and her father. The book does a much better job explaining why Harry is the way that he is.
     
  16. Kuri44

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    My bad

    I should’ve added “Imagine IF* he HAD* found out” to be more clear
     
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  17. zachmacD Sep 12, 2019
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    zachmacD

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    You are proving my point. In the book, it's way better explained why Henry is the way that he is. Hence why I said they didn't do a good job explaining it in the movie. Relax, I'm not defending his father
     
  18. zachmacD

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    I didn't take it that way and it looks like that he isn't how he meant it
     
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  19. EASheartsVinyl

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    Wait, you’re saying his father wasn’t abusive and you HAVE read the book?? He’s like the quintessential character to show how horrific the town is at its core. The film pulled a lot of their punches with that dynamic and forces people to fill in the gaps more than they should have, but it’s absolutely still meant to portray an abusive relationship.
     
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  20. Kuri44

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    I think we can all agree that Georgie definitely had it coming though.
     
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  21. EASheartsVinyl

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    Also calling him Harry once I was going to let slide, but I can’t keep quiet after two, lol.
     
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  22. zachmacD

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    You are totally missing my point. My whole point was that compared to the movie, they didn't explain it well. I listened to the audio book (45 hours) so I was totally engrossed in this world. In the book, the father is absolutely horrible so Henry's behavior seems realistic based on how he's treated and his home life. I didn't get that from the movie . I honestly can't believe there's this much discussion about it. I've read a bunch of stuff online about people thinking Henry's behavior in the movie is over the top.
     
  23. zachmacD

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    lmao, missed that
     
  24. Brother Beck

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    Well shooting at my kids' feet is definitely my go-to parenting technique in almost every situation. First day of pre-school jitters? Start dancing!
     
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  25. EASheartsVinyl

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    It’s because you said him shooting at him wasn’t abusive, and may have even been a noble act intended to help him, the cat, and others and fight Henry’s nature, which is..... not a good look. We can agree that they should have fleshed out both characters more, but he was still awful and abusive even in the few examples they gave us.
     
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