I Love You, Daddy (Louis C.K., November 17th, 2017) Movie • Page 2

Yes it was one of my favorite shows. I said that in my post.

 

Yeah I'd argue it was one of the better shows of the past 5-10 years

 

Yeah I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around it I guess. So you're okay with people joking about rape and calling women and their mother ****s and whores?

 

I'll take it from the bolding of "joking", that you're all saying that you're okay and find jokes about raping women funny. My apologies, please continue. I'll head out.

 

It all depends on the joke. If you need someone to explain comedy to you, maybe you've come to the wrong place.

 

Him calling his mom the c word should have raised more red flags for me and his stuff about the n word is awful

I don't recall jokes about sexual assault being in his repertoire, if it is that's inexcusable, we probably should call out comedy more but I don't like the implication that we can't start now versus before

 

That scene is particularly mean spirited and doesn't really portray Louis in a positive light. I'm sure people will view it as the "ultimate takedown of a heckler" or whatever, which I suppose is problematic.

 

I dunno. I mean, some jokes can be in poor taste, but I inherently have issues with people trying to censor comedy.

 

Call him out for his horrible predatory behavior. Stop watching his films, stop supporting him etc. But questioning the limits that cause a person to become offended is kinda pushing it.

 

I apologize. My response was a little harsh. I'm not trying to defend this particular bit necessarily, but in general I don't think any topic should be off limits.

 

That was meant for both sides, I didn't know how it came off. I think that questioning why someone would like a show that contains jokes you find offensive is odd, but I understand why someone would not want to watch something that's offensive too.

 

Something being offensive is purely subjective. I understand why someone would be offended by it and not want to watch it, but I also understand others not being offended by it.

At the end of the day, like you said, judge Louis for his actions, not his words.

 

This is the first time I have heard anything about him. I'm at work so cannot look it up.

Anyone wanna give me an overview?

 

Yeah idk I really liked the show, it was cleverly written and had a lot of really obscure moments and just some bizarre humor throughout and I thought it was really unique and I enjoyed watching it. I didn’t find humor in any sexual assault jokes and I thought that the whole part in I think season 4 where Louis and Pamela have sex and it isn’t shown to be 100% consensual is pretty gross, even more so looking back now with the allegations he is facing. But that wasn’t like a majority of the show. Idk, I don’t watch the show anymore, and haven’t since I caught a whiff of the allegations. I no longer support the art that the man creates.

 

yeah, no need to see this after reading that piece

 

Also, I don't believe a topic should be off limits at all. It just has to actually be funny. I think you shouldn't censor what can and can't be joked about, but you can choose to not listen to or watch someone because you disagree with the subjects.

As an example, I don't find certain subjects funny, but I like Jim Jeffries because I find his comedy on other subjects funny. There is an understanding that he doesn't believe what he says, and that I don't believe what he says either, so I feel okay with it. It's just rather dark humour.

 

The problem is that saying nothing is off limits in comedy fuels the alt right who claim their abuse is just a joke

 

If the allegations were never made, would you feel any different about the content of Louis' show or act?

I just think that is a show wants to portray sex that's not 100% consensual, that's okay. It's story telling and it's not always going to be pretty. If it glamorizes it, or condones it, that's a different thing. I don't think Louie's show ever really did that. There were awkward moments, but I don't remember them ever being portrayed in a particularly positive way.

 

I understand that words can be extremely hurtful, but words and actions are different.

 

in 2015, jen kirkman spoke up on her podcast about a comedian that had reached "cosby status" and was basically a french film director, etc. basically it could not have been anyone but louie given the comedy landscape at the time. she even gave it a "you know who i'm talking about" kinda comment. she shared an account that the comedian in question had trapped a couple of young female comedians in a room and would not let them leave until they watched him masturbate. she talked about how bad comedy can be for women in this way, that it's a boys club and speaking up could end a career.

the internet quickly put the pieces together that the man was likely louis and that the women may have been kate micucci and riki lindhome. jen followed up by deleting that episode and denying that she meant louis.

this year, tig notaro brought the accusations back up, saying louis needed to handle them. he responded by being incredibly dismissive in the press, never outright denying doing it, just saying he doesn't want to address rumors.

 

I think this sums it up. Before I knew about the allegations against Louis, I more or less gave that scene between him and Pamela a pass. It was murky enough to where it wasn’t really certain whether it was consensual or not, and the show carries on as though nothing negative like that happened from what I recall. But knowing what I know about him and his history with sexual misconduct, that scene paints an entirely different picture for me now.

 

I think it's pretty obvious what the intentions are though, and that's the difference for me?

Oh wow. I'll do more research on this later but that is incredibly disappointing.

 

This is kinda my point. It's all about context.

 

I've never actually seen his TV shows, just his specials, but that sounds like something I do not want to see regardless.