HUNDREDTH - Somewhere Nowhere (Oct 9, 2020) Album • Page 9

“Complete and total creative bankruptcy,” huh? Cool. Then show me how you'd recreate the video without AI. Break it down. Camera, lighting, animation, timing. Should be easy if it’s that worthless, right? What prompt would you even use to generate this? Also, can you point to the exact art that was stolen? And while we’re fact checking, I’d love that receipt for the CO2 emissions and water waste. I'm genuinely curious.

 

I already told you what I would do

 

Just curious, would you be okay if The Dangerous Summer plugged all your albums into an AI so they could make a new album without you? Because that’s what people using AI are doing. They’re stealing from the hard work of millions of people and probably making more money than them by typing some prompts.

 

Can you do that? Sure. Try it. Are you impressed with the end results? Great. Can I stop you? No. This is the reality of the world. It’s not going anywhere.

If I use drum samples from another session, am I committing some blasphemous mistake? Or am I just using the tools available to make something new?

I can’t stop you from doing whatever you want with the tools you have. You could try to make a Sam Pura album with AI. Go for it. But it will never be a Sam Pura album. It will be different. And maybe you will like that more. That’s fine.

Every generation has its panic moment. Mellotron shows up. People scream it will replace orchestras. Drum machines hit. RIP drummers. Sampling? Get out of here. People said it wasn’t real music. CGI? What a joke. Hollywood will never take it seriously.

Every new invention threatens to kill music and creativity. And yet here we are. Still making art. Still moved by it. Still evolving.

Maybe you don’t see it that way right now. But you will advance. We all do.

 

How profound. I'm truly moved by this incredible artistic output from you.

 

Real quick. Did you create your profile pic from scratch or did you borrow that from the vast pool of human creativity you claim to protect?

 

Ok man

 

Yeah, but I’m not claiming it as my own art and selling it.

You don’t really have to go this hard for AI. Maybe you can overlook all the problems with AI, but not everyone does. It’s just kinda sad to see someone that creates art coming so hard at people over something that steals from artists. I don’t give a shit what people are pushing as the future. I don’t want it in my future. Just like I don’t want a fucking fascist to rule the country. You’re not embracing the future, you’re just bending the knee.

 

People not liking it is also not going anywhere. Industry professional Sam Pura, what are you gaining from arguing like this on a small corner of the internet?

 

Going to a thrift store to purchase a shirt is not the same as mowing down however many natural resources you would need to create a shitty version of that same shirt

 

I’m an artist. I create work meant to connect with people. Ideally to challenge, inspire, and spark conversation. So yes, when I see people engaging with new art I’m part of, whether they love it or hate it, I participate. I should participate. That is part of the job. Absorbing feedback and impressions.

Framing that as “arguing” feels like a swipe not just at me, but at the idea that artists should not be involved in the discourse around their work. How dare you imply that thoughtful engagement is not appropriate, especially in spaces where people are reacting to art I am proud to be part of.

 

But you didn’t make the video and mostly everyone complimented the song you made. So what really is the point?

 

I appreciate that. Thank you for the kind words about the song and production. That really means a lot.

And while I didn’t make the video, I’m proud to be part of the full piece. It moves me. It hits me emotionally. And honestly, the discussion around it is part of the art for me. This kind of work presents a new challenge for all of us. Anything I don’t like, I try to sit with and understand why. That process is what makes art meaningful.

 

Sure, but let’s not pretend thrifted clothes came from nowhere. That shirt still started with raw materials, manufacturing, shipping, and retail before ending up on a secondhand rack.

If we’re going to talk about impact, let’s ground it in something real. Got any sources to back up the claim, or are we just speaking in generalities?

 

As Use of A.I. Soars, So Does the Energy and Water It Requires

AI Is Accelerating the Loss of Our Scarcest Natural Resource: Water

Explained: Generative AI’s environmental impact

Just a few links I found real quick. Take them for what you will. Just wanted to help

 

Yes, but that is not what you are arguing when you are trying to gotcha someone online for using a photo someone else took as their avatar on a music forum as a comparison to AI generation

You are plenty capable of locating information about the environmental impacts of AI on your own

 

It would be

Pay real artists

 

For the record, I like this answer. I am a fan of your work and I respect engaging with it online.

Parts of your replies sound like thoughtful engagement, the other parts just sound like you're mad at folks for disagreeing with you and like you're trying to "win" the conversation.

 

But humans did make it. The AI didn't invent itself. Real artists guided it with creativity, intent, and vision. Paying real people also involves transportation, equipment rentals, sets, lighting, power, catering, and crew, all of which carry significant financial costs and increased carbon emissions.

Your suggestion to pay traditional artists, while ethically well intentioned, conflicts with the sustainability goals you're advocating. The band has essentially no budget, yet you're proposing they spend money they don't have, consume additional resources, and generate emissions to produce something "real" enough to artistically satisfy your criteria, hoping it might eventually become profitable. Is that genuinely your goal?

Instead, wouldn't it be better to support artists who creatively use accessible technology to produce meaningful art sustainably within their means? AI tools democratize creativity by giving artists powerful resources they couldn't otherwise afford, reducing economic barriers and environmental impact simultaneously.

 

I hear you, and you're right. My earlier comment about avatars was overly pointed and probably distracted from the real discussion. My intention isn't to "win" conversations or dismiss anyone who disagrees. Rather, I'm genuinely interested in exploring the complexities and contradictions of these topics.

We're probably more aligned than it seems. The AI approach likely generates less of a carbon footprint overall, allowing the band to be more creative with fewer resources. Ultimately, it increases their chances of connecting meaningfully with listeners who might genuinely enjoy it, rather than just viewing it as something challenging their morals about what constitutes art.

 

I don't think the success of the single/album is that reliant on an interesting music video, especially in 2025. They could have just done a basic lyric video and it probably would have a similar reach.

 

Wait, so you're suggesting the band should intentionally limit their creativity and avoid using available tools just to align with your personal ethics? You're also implying that music videos aren't even important today. If that's true, why should anyone bother making one at all? Why create lyric videos, music videos, or even music itself? What's the point of creating anything if artists need to constantly justify their creative choices against arbitrary standards? It genuinely feels offensive to suggest artists should restrict their creative reach because it doesn't meet your personal criteria. What exactly are you proposing they do instead?

 

I'm saying that it probably isn't worth the resources necessary to use AI to create a music video. There are other options that are better environmentally that don't also require the use of stolen assets.

 

You can do whatever you want, but it shouldn't be surprising that people are pushing back on this.