Hundredth - Faded Splendor (May 16, 2025) • Page 3

Is this use of AI actually stealing from other artists directly? From my understanding, it’s being done by someone who specializes in AI content that’s not ripping off an artist directly. If this is actually ripping off direct artists - then yeah - not cool at all. With you on that 100%

However, I still think this is how things will continue to go (ie: the times we live in) and while I don’t like it - I’m not going to pretend that isn’t the case. Would love some regulation to be put in place to stop artists directly being stolen from to combat this but if it’s an assortment of other art that’s not directly ripping off a distinct artist then I just don’t know how that will be done.

 

It doesn't have to rip off an artist directly when it's being made by stealing from millions of artists. Specializing in AI doesn't stop where everything is sourced, which is from other peoples' genuine hard work. Someone that specializes in AI is just a thief that's good with a computer.

 

Not what I said at all. I’m saying if you’re a non-touring artist then you probably make very little money off your music since streaming pays mere cents so can you afford to put out visuals to drum up attention/excitement for your new record? Unless you’re making them on your own free of cost? Probably not (and even if you do - not everyone can be both a great musician and a great visual artist as well with editing software and skill)

Music videos exist only to be made into 60 second social media clips these days to market tours and records ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Is that me saying an artist can’t succeed without using AI? No - I’m simply calling what probably led to Chadwick utilizing it. That’s all. Sheesh.

 

Now this is a fair response IMO and yeah agreed.

 

Yeah, fair to have disdain on that (again - I don’t love it either) but also hard to see how to stop it. Reminds me of Napster rising tbh.

Anyways not here to argue with folks on using AI since I’m not defending it. Just trying to enjoy the music and hear folks response to the music.

 

If bands want to use that stuff, fine. It's their prerogative. I'm aware that most people aren't even going to notice or care if AI is used.

But they should also know that they're risking alienating a portion of their fan base.

 

Well you stop it by not engaging with it and explaining to people how damaging using it is. It's really that simple. What they do with that info is up to them, but just standing by and saying, "well this is how it is now", certainly isn't gonna help matters at all.

 

Yeah - I think the reason I’m not as offput by it is because Hundredth isn’t a full time thing at all. I personally thought they were 100% done. If I saw an artist with an actual label behind them doing this - I probably would be feeling different. Just being honest.

I do think it’s good for folks such as yourself to point out how damaging it is cause knowing is always half the battle. Just feels like a general bummer if a whole thread becomes mostly complaining about it but I’m sure the counter argument is very easily “well it’s a bummer that they used AI in the first place”

*sigh* time to make some coffee.

 

I mean everyone has mostly been saying how great the music is. Not our fault they keep giving us a reason to dunk on them too.

 

yup, and this argument that “this is just the way it is” is so cynical. no, i don’t have to accept that a reckless, theft driven technology developed for and sold by capitalists is seeping into various artistic mediums. AI “art” does not have to be a thing, it is a choice we are making.

 

Admittedly I have no idea what he paid whoever to do this AI bullshit, but what I can tell you is whatever number that was there’s an endless number of starving real artists out there who would’ve happily done something for the same figure

 

This is where I’m at too. I’m certainly not a fan of AI “art” at all. But while it can be argued that it’s cynical to say that “this is the way it is now”, I’d argue it’s equally naive (if not more so) to think AI is going to go away if people just apply enough pressure or boycott - especially when in a lot of cases small creators are the only ones who would be meaningfully impacted by such a boycott. Clearly AI is here to stay, but what WILL make an impact is how regulation is shaped around ethical use, consent and compensation around fair use of existing artists’ work, etc. Burying your head in the sand and calling everyone who engages with this technology in any way “cynical” isn’t going to change that this technology will continue to exist and change in its role in our lives. That’s why I think there is more nuance to be had here than the very black and white takes from some comments here.

Specifically for smaller musicians/bands, 100% I think it’s fair to strongly advocate for collaborating with traditional artists instead of using AI tools. But personally it’s not a dealbreaker where I’m going to stop supporting a band I love because of the tool they chose to use - I’m disappointed sure, but I don’t think it’s that cynical to acknowledge that this tech is going to be increasingly commonplace.

 

Prob a bad time to share I work in AI.

 

Software development/data analytics for me lol. I’m very much keenly aware of the negative consequences of AI especially in the arts, so not trying to downplay that at all. But I do think the Napster analogy @mattylikesfilms made is apt in the sense of a technology being so disruptive that there’s no real way to put the genie back in the bottle after the fact. Like with any other seismic technological shift, I think society will have to adapt - not in the sense of just accepting negative changes, but there’s a middle ground between that and trying to throw the whole thing away which is never gonna happen. I’m specifically working in the healthcare space, and I really do think there’s the *potential* for some really amazing innovation there… there’s also the potential for misuse as well. How it’s used is the key.