Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by iCarly Rae Jepsen, Sep 5, 2017.
Looks really good.
I'm into it. Enjoying the resurgence of Westerns in recent years.
This was absolutely incredible how are people not talking about this in this forum
It hasn't really gone "wide" yet. Give it another week.
Best movie I’ve seen in maybe the past 2 years. Can’t think of anything else that hit me emotionally like this did.
So glad to hear that, hope I get some time to see it this weekend.
Just saw this with Movie Pass. Pretty good movie
Deeply touched by this film. Bale was phenomenal, maybe only outshined by Rosamund Pike.
Great movie, Bale killed it.
i didn't like it. my wife fell asleep.
that said, bale was really good. wish ben foster had a bigger role
I can’t imagine not liking this
Really good. I’m a sucker for Westerns
Mediocre. What a waste of Wes Studi. And rarely have I seen antagonists so shoehorned into a movie.
How was this a waste of Wes Studi?? He was great in this as he always is! Also Rosemund Pike was insanely good. She stole the movie. And it was probably Bales best performance. Really beautiful film
I thoroughly enjoyed it. I was glad to see that some complex issues between Natives/whites were explored.
Couple of issues but really enjoyed this for the most part. I was a big fan of Tommy.
Didn't like this in any way. Found the film uncomfortably racist and overacted. Really wanted to like this too.
Course I was sitting near an old man who would mutter racial slurs and cheer every time a native character got shot. So that didn't help the racism in the film go unnoticed
Wait I’m sorry i don’t get what you’re saying. You think this film is promoting racism?
It's not promoting racism, several of the characters out right denounce their past and try and become better people.
But I do think they are far too comfortable with the racial slurs, especially for a film where
they kill basically all the native characters
I can kind of see what you’re saying... but I mean, name a movie that revolves around the evils of racisms that doesn’t have racial slurs in it? I’m not saying I enjoy hearing those words. I do think hearing evil people in the film using those words is a difficult pill to swallow. But also reminds me how foul of words they are and how no human should be treated as less than human.
In regards to
the First Nations dying at the end of the film. At first I was super off out by it but then I thought of it like this. By the end of the movie you’ve seen Bale make a complete 180. You’ve seen a friendship grow between these two groups that have hated for so long. It’s a film of change. To me all the death at the end is so the characters that had a change of heart could display how deep of change they made. To show how drastic the growth from hate to love was. Also it was like a reminder “damn, terrible racists people still exist”, but these people that made change won’t stand for it. And we need to be those people today, that won’t stand for it. I guess this film really hit me emotionally, as an illustration that everyone should be treated as human / people of colors cultures needs to be preserved and respected and celebrated / hate can turn to love if you try to communicate with people different then you. Just seems weird to write off that film as racist, when it works so hard to fight against it
I might have been distracted by the slurs, because I didn't feel any of those same emotions.
But I also felt like it was a poorly written film. Felt like 3 movies smashed together and the antagonists literally show up out of nowhere to be a nuisance.
Glad other people are finding good things in the film though!
it wanted to have its cake and eat it too with the racism I think, the first image we see is a gang covered in face paint making only woop sounds, but then it's like actually some of them are nice model minority and such and we shouldn't have taken their land