Hip-Hop Thread Genre • Page 1176

Both albums are great. Some of the best beats I’ve heard Paak on

 

Yachty has made multiple pop classics! Bring It Back, Forever Young, One Night. He’s always had the juice, he just insisted on rapping.

 

Lil Yachty will be around way longer than say Lil Uzi will

quote me if I’m wrong

 

I don’t agree with that. Lil Uzi is also just way better in general. He’s also had way bigger hits.

 

one of them is showing their range and the other is showing their lack of range imo

I’m not even a big Yachty fan either but that seems pretty obvious to me

at the very least Yachty hasn’t done a terrible karaoke cover of a nu metal track

 

Uzi has a ton of range imo and I used to fuck with them heavy. Until he assaulted his ex

 

Uzi seems to have burnt out. Yachty could have the higher ceiling

 

Yachty had a psyche album and just had a release with James Blake that people are raving about

Uzi’s last album was basically trying to replicate what Carti did five years ago. bro is creatively bankrupt imo

 

That psyche album was a soulless, whitewashed, desperate left-turn. And that’s with me actually having a few of its tracks on playlists. The Uzi release wasn’t as good as previous albums but at least they wrote it themself and it didn’t feel like a contrived mess made to appeal to white people. There I said it

 

The Pink Floyd album was definitely overhyped by weird r/hiphopheads, but Yachty has done enough within the culture to deserve a more thoughtful look at his music

 

The psychedelic album didn't have much staying power with me, BUT calling it whitewashed/specifically made to appeal to white people as opposed to a genuine experiment on Yachty's part seems very weird and bad faith. What evidence do you have for that?

 

Let's not bring evidence into this

 

it’s not very good but it endeared me to Yachty very much lol

 

yeah it could’ve been way better but I applaud him for trying it out at least

 

This article articulates it better than I can, but really it’s just another example of a rapper who was already doing interesting stuff within the genre “wanting to be taken seriously” and switches it up by collaborating with a bunch of white writers and artists.

The Faulty Rationale For Lil Yachty's Psych-Rock Metamorphosis

 

That's kinda funny too because there are like three white people still listening to rock (no shot at, well, a lot of us on here)

 

I only listen to Randy Newman nowadays. If Yachty made a satirical piano album, I would definitely give it a listen.

 

I think Lil Yachty is either underrated and overrated depending on who you ask

 

a lot of yachty fans were white already before that album for suuure

 

i don’t necessarily disagree with the thrust of that but i find the scolding tone really strange. like it’s 90% about all the structural factors that contribute to this but also seems very frustrated with Yachty personally. also strange to use even Yeezus-era Kanye as an example of someone okay with being “just a rapper” when he started as a producer and half the lyrics on Yeezus are him being mad that the high fashion world doesn’t fuck with him. it just seems like picking on Yachty in context to me tbh lol

 

i guess that wasn’t actually the context of kanye name drop in that article but still he is an example of how people so much huger than Yachty fall for the same “just a rapper” stuff

 

Yachty was stagnating creatively for a while and he noticed it then decided to take his sound in different directions. most artists in the current hip hop landscape don’t have the kind of self-awareness to even admit that it might be time for a change. I don’t think that’s something to pick apart just because it’s not an overwhelming success. I mean do we value creativity more or being trendy?

 

Drive Me Crazy is a banger but I dont go back to that album otherwise really

 

I found that article distasteful. If your telling an artist to stay in their lane, recognize you're being a hater and hate on it properly. Don't pretend its a moral cause that you'd stand by even if the songs were dope. Where was that energy when 3k did the flute album?

 

I think it’s a nuanced discussion, like I also disagree with parts of the article but agree with its whole premise on rappers wanting to evolve but sacrificing something crucial to do so, mistaking innovation for something…else. Feel like the Yachty album is a great example of exactly that. The fact he had majority of white fans before the switch-up doesn’t help the argument. It’s just another example of not being for the culture.