Hip-Hop Thread [ARCHIVED] Genre • Page 954

The days where people would constantly check 2dopeboyz for whatever is new in rap.

 

I haven’t listened to Rich Brian in years but this song is still mesmerizing to me

 

the reaction videos to dat stick are still some of my favorite things on the internet

 

I somehow never watched this when it happened even though I’m the neighbourhood LL fan. Pretty cool thing they did. Wild that Cut Creator was out there scratching.

I really want that full band version of All I Have now.

 

His last two albums are genuinely really good, he has a really good artistic vision. Always an amazing aesthetic too

While I'm defending internet rappers lol, I've also loved basically everything Rich Brian has done. He has a ton of range

 

A stone cold classic

 

I just wanna say this debut is still a favorite of mine. I think it was even up there for top album of the year for me.

 

(mostly) good album. Is that considered their debut though?

 

I just go by press release lol I know they have a bunch of mixtapes

 

Yeah RYN alone disqualifies Culture as debut. That word has become so meaningless since mixtapes basically indistinguishable from albums.

 

Fantastic album. Was the senior year of college/summer 2017 soundtrack, that's for sure

 

YRN is one of the last mixtapes that was actually like a mixtape and not just an album being called a mixtape imo. definitely see culture as the proper debut.

 

i dont really keep up with new rap the way i used to but from like 2011 to 2015 it was all i did. ive been revisiting some of the stuff i was super into back then lately and a lot still holds up. the first asap rocky mixtape, the first couple big krit mixtapes, the first albums (or well reviewed albums in some cases) from schoolboy q, kendrick, ab-soul, and jay rock. danny brown, action bronson, the worthwhile lil b mixtapes which were greater in number during these years. freddie gibbs coming out from under jeezy, hell that was even when meek mill was still putting out mixtapes like dreamchasers and dreamchasers 2. gucci was at the tail end of his historic mixtape era but still putting out a lot of great stuff. chief keef, lil durk, and the rest of the chicago drill scene was starting to take shape. future was taking off, young thug was a young scrappy left field gucci protege, kevin gates became a serious rapper in that time, starlito and don trip were out of label purgatory and putting out some of the best independent rap of the time, odd future was still for all intents and purposes "a thing" and tyler, earl, and frank were all launched into superstardom, i mean i could go on for a really long time because of how much went down and how into it all i was. that will forever be MY golden era of hip-hop.

 

A mixtape for me is rapping over other peoples beats and barely making songs put of it and DJs talking over it

 

old head

 

yeah no that disqualifies every single gucci mane mixtape from being a mixtape and like, thousands of other tapes lol. for me and when i grew up it was largely just if it was on datpiff or up for free download somewhere. i believe YRN was on datpiff. if it was on datpiff, it was a tape. then streaming comes along and you can put "mixtapes" right next to "albums" and lines got blurred.

 

Wonder why Culture isn’t on Spotify right now

 

I still can’t believe this was a thing that actually happened lmao

 

In my mind mixtapes died with Friday Night Lights by J. Cole and So Far Gone by Drake. That’s when it became a marketing term more than anything else in many cases.

I should clarify though: I don’t are if you call your release mixtape or album, I’m just saying that if you had a successful “mixtape” full of original songs, your subsequent “album” full of original songs should not be called a debut because that is dumb.

 

yeah i dont agree that its dumb to call a debut album a debut album lol the distinction between album and mixtape used to be clear and whether or not the beats were already used had little to do with it. but thats way more of a pre internet thing and the earliest days of mixtapes with people hustling their actual physical tapes and cd's outside stores and shows but i think its fair to say the mixtape evolved to mean different things throughout the years and eras right up until streaming made the distinction completely irrelevant. but in my experience it had way more to do with what you had to pay to listen to it than what it actually contained. and people were able to give them away for free because of smaller budgets from using other beats or simply leasing beats and not getting exclusive rights or working out deals with producers for free beats in exchange for placement on the tape of a buzzing artist, etc. etc. there was a time when you started making your album it meant you had access to expensive producers (and the budget for sample clearance) and you would be charging money and getting a wide spread physical and digital store front release and not just uploading it to datpiff and calling it a day. so a debut album would hold higher stakes for artists regardless of how many tapes of original material they had and the expectations were always different from fans, critics, and the artists labels alike.

 

I really liked j Cole’s Friday night lights mixtape I remember being so meh when his albums came out

 

Same

 

I don’t think we disagree all that much about it. The cut-off I am talking about is kind of close to when streaming took over too.

 

I think in truth I sm just still annoyed they called that final Nipsey Hussle release his debut lol

 

This is the song that got me to checking out the Friday night lights mixtape