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Hawkeye (2021, Disney+) TV Show • Page 16

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by GBlades, Jul 21, 2019.

  1. Anthony_

    A (Cancelled) Dork Prestigious

    this fucking rules, love Vinny D
     
  2. SteveLikesMusic

    approx. 3rd coolest Steve on here Supporter

    Did not like the handling of kingpin in this at all.

    was terrifying and unbeatable in DD, Lost twice in his intro episode here. Immediately loses all threat.
     
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  3. Penlab

    Prestigious Supporter

    On the contrary, in DD, Daredevil makes a point of saying, and I quote, "I beat you." Quite loudly, I might add.
     
  4. Rowan5215

    An inconsequential shift as the continents drift.

    after three seasons of failing to beat him and losing almost everything to do so, tbf
     
  5. Penlab

    Prestigious Supporter

    To be fair, he beat him in Season 1, if we consider sending him to prison being beaten. Fisk just happened to adapt better to prison life than any of them could have imagined, Fisk included.

    Also, going back to the original post, I'm not really sure how he was beaten twice in this series, unless you consider Maya shooting him with a gun "beating" him, which we're not sure she actually did.

    And Kate did beat him, but it took a lot to do it. Daredevil didn't have an explosive arrow. Pretty sure if Kate just fought Fisk with her fists, she'd be dead now.
     
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  6. slimfenix182

    FUCKIN SAVAGES IN THAT FUCKIN BOX Prestigious

    He walked away from a direct hit by a car, walked away from a point blank explosion, and we can assume he survived a point blank gun shot (if she shot him) lol
     
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  7. MidDave

    Chorus' Least Grumpy Poster Supporter

    He had an arrow sticking straight out of his chest and barely lost a breath lol
     
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  8. Penlab

    Prestigious Supporter

    Also on this, didn't Daredevil establish that Kingpin's clothes are bulletproof or something? I dunno if that matters here or not.
     
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  9. TEGCRocco

    Assume It's A Bit

    I guess getting blown up by a trick arrow after getting shot right in the chest, run over by a car, and pretty effectively rocking Kate’s shit counts as being beaten, but it taking all that just to knock him down for a few minutes doesn’t lower his threat level IMO
     
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  10. Cameron

    FKA nowFace Prestigious

    Also got big Home Alone vibes during the arrow assembly scene.
     
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  11. RyanPm40

    The Torment of Existence Supporter

    Rewatching now, yes. He has bulletproof armor sewn into all of his suits. Totally forgot that before my rewatch. It's the same armor used in Daredevil's suit.
     
  12. stayillogical

    Kayak, deed, rotator, noon, racecar, Woo Young-woo Prestigious

    I said the same thing while watching it.
     
  13. Rowan5215

    An inconsequential shift as the continents drift.

    I get what you're saying, but the larger problem I'm having (and I imagine others as well) is how... perfunctory and almost goofy this fight came across. I never got a sense of real stakes or danger at any point, probably because Hawkeye was a goofy low-stakes show set at Christmas, and dropping this version of Kingpin into it was always gonna be a weird fit

    just think of how much effort Daredevil went to build up his mystique... no-one saying his name until almsot three hours in, and then the dude who said it kills himself rather than face the consequences. cut to our first glimpse of Fisk, and he's in a gallery looking like the saddest dude in the world, appreciating fine art. who is this guy? how is he the terrifying crime boss the season has been building up to? it leaves you with so many questions, and every scene with Fisk subsequently just deepens what a layered character he is, and how fucking amazing D'Onofrio is at playing him

    in this show... they introduce him with a blurry photo on Kate's phone, have him wander around a tiki bar in a Hawaiian shirt like he's an uncle on vacation, and then drop him into a very silly fight where both parties pretty much behave like cartoon characters. it's not like I was expecting this show to get to DD levels of brutality, but they could have at least aimed for some kind of realism, because seeing this character just shrug off arrows and getting bounced through walls by a car completely destroys the illusion that Daredevil's writers and directors spent so long painstakingly building up
     
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  14. Penlab

    Prestigious Supporter

    I feel if anything that Kingpin was slightly disserviced by only appearing in one episode. I think the show relied a little too much on people filling in gaps in his character with what they remembered from Daredevil instead of taking the time to truly reacclimate people. They needed a couple more episodes, honestly.
     
  15. He'll probably be featured in Echo a lot more
     
  16. DarkHotline

    Stuck In Evil Mode For 31 Days Prestigious

    Haters gonna hate, hate hate hate hate
     
  17. TEGCRocco

    Assume It's A Bit

    I think Kingpin should've just been a post-credits reveal. Keep all the hints and nods of there being some bigger threat looming over everything, and then show him Thanos-style at the very end. Really, Fisk didn't have much of anything to do with the plot of the show directly, so they could've saved his main introduction for Echo.
     
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  18. Greg

    The Forgotten Son Supporter

    Musicals generally bore me
     
  19. David87

    Prestigious Prestigious

    i remember liking him in 28 Weeks Later
     
  20. stayillogical

    Kayak, deed, rotator, noon, racecar, Woo Young-woo Prestigious

    The Town? Wind River?
     
  21. David87

    Prestigious Prestigious

    This was cool. I thought they rushed it at the end and glossed through that Hawkeye/yelena meeting too fast, but otherwise this was enjoyable.

    I can do this all day is stuck in my head and I’d probably watch Rogers the musical for free haha
     
  22. DeathOrGlory

    Just a friendly reminder

    I echo the people who say that this was fun, because I had a lot of fun watching this. No less, no more.

    I could watch a hangout version of the Hawkeye show with Clint, Kate, and Yelena for sure. I wish that Jeremey Renner wasn't a giant tool that needed to go away because I've appreciated MCU Hawkeye since Age of Ultron.
     
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  23. Sean Murphy

    Most Prestigious Supporter

    Florence is so absolutely perfect
     
  24. Sean Murphy

    Most Prestigious Supporter

    This was very fun, i dont know what aspects of it are going to make it to future projects but, i hope to see more Florence, Hailee, and Lucky.
     
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  25. TEGCRocco

    Assume It's A Bit

    Just realized we didn't get a scene from Lucky's POV so I take back anything positive I said about this show