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Even though there are less songs to me it feels way more bloated than the trilogy. It's such a dense record and doesn't really give you much payoff in the end. A lot of the songs in the middle I often forget even exist.

 

That (Revolution Radio) was the most positive experience I've had with a Green Day album since American Idiot. I'm not sure what took me so long to check this and the trilogy out, considering Dookie was the first album I ever heard.

 

Because they made the trilogy you end up really hurting your career catalog. 4 mediocre (at best) albums looks waaaaaay worse than one or two.

 

Doesn't help that it was 4 mediocre at best albums in a row either.

 

No reason for 21st Century Breakdown or any Green Day album to be 70 minutes.

 

If it was as good as the trilogy I'd be okay with the length.

 

21st Century Breakdown is significantly better than the trilogy cmon now

 

Yeah it’s definitely better

 

21stCB was overambitous, but they tried really hard to make it work, so it is a very good album.

The trilogy was overambitious, but it doesn't seem like they made an effort in any sense, so they ended up with three bad/mediocre albums.

 

21st is pretty good overall, but it definitely comes off as American Idiot 2.0, the less genuine version

 

I honestly fucking love 21CB

It might be because that era is the first time I saw them live though

 

That was my bottom ten for sure haha.

I think you could make a very good album out of 21CB and R.R., considering they are both already pretty good

 

I mean, that point (some people’s favorite songs missing the album) is something you can say about virtually any recording project ever. It’s part of what makes putting a great album out so difficult. It’s not an excuse to just release everything you have. You need to edit yourself and judge what material is worthy of release. “Brutal Love”? Yes. “Lady Cobra”? No.

Honestly, RR is one of my favorite Green Day albums at this point. It’s super solid all the way through, the hooks are way better than the trilogy, and there’s a lot more to the songwriting.

Yeah, I still like 21CB. I don’t go back to it that much, because I find it pretty exhausting, but there are a lot of songs I like there.

 

I'm convinced that like an 16-18 song album of Trilogy songs along with better production would make a top tier Green Day album.

 

I think I would be more annoyed about the trilogy if I'd bought them. But in the era of streaming it's easier to go "eh, nice try, but it didn't work".

21st Century Breakdown is pretty good for about two-thirds of the album but suffers from trying to outdo American Idiot so the "plot" is incomprehensible.

 

Holy shit not only did I manage to get tickets to The Longshot tour but so did the other two people I had trying with me. I can't believe we managed to get five tickets but I'm so fucking happy

 

Seeing them in Brooklyn and RI!

 

The ticket experience earlier was SO stressful: my check-out for Toronto took what seemed like forever to load, and good thing it did, because after I got mine someone else I knew didn't end up getting any because it sold out right when they went up. Crazy!

 

I went to buy tix @ 10:01, and the ticket site crashed and I missed my chance. Bummed, but considering how tiny the venue is... I'm not surprised. Gave it a valiant effort; the Internet Gods didn't care.

 

21CB feels like a rehash of AI, but overlong and much less inspired. The good songs on it are great, but the bad songs are horrible. I’ve never listened to any of the full trilogy albums, but I hated all the singles and don’t care much to check out the complete albums tbh

 

21CB definitely lives in the shadow of American Idiot, but that record is a stone cold modern rock classic so the slightly rehashed version of it is still pretty great. My issue with it has always been that the narrative is much less clear to me. That, and there are a few songs that try things I’m just not into.

 

I've always been under the impression 21CB more has narrative themes that it returns to over the course of the album than it is a straight-up concept album like AI

 

Speaking of 21CB, I always thought this song was a ton of fun.

 

The Longshot album is enjoyable, but mostly comes off like Green Day-by numbers, or Green Day b-sides

 

I've been re-listening to 21CB over the last couple of days and I honestly think that quality wise it is a perfect bridge between American Idiot and the trilogy in that it starts out great and gets thoroughly average (and a bit lazy) by the end.