Green Day Band • Page 30

American Idiot is my fav although Warning is a close second

21CB is great and while its kinda bloated and cheesy idc i think its got some good songwriting and catchy songs.

RevRad, Nimrod, Dookie, and Insomniac are all very good but I rarely listen to them front to back. a lot of songs from those albums would dominate my fav GD song list though.

Ive changed my opinion on the trilogy. uno is meh but harmless, dos is actually bad, tre is decent

 

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Same here on the trilogy.

 

hey look at us out here agreeing

although truth be told we agree more often than not

 

one of the many not great things about the trilogy is just how lifeless the guitar tones are

GD have never had like amazing textures or anything but good god the tones on the trilogy are so boring

 

right? its like Billie just plugged his guitars in and just kinda didnt bother with making them sound interesting. usually he adds SOMETHING to his tone to make it sound beefier or more layered but the trilogy just feels lifeless in its tones and overall instrumentation. Mikes bass is also really flat and borderline impossible to hear usually

 

Yeah, like I said the production choices are super odd on the trilogy. One of the saddest things is that it contains Mike's most interesting bass parts since the 90's imo and you can barely hear it a lot of the time. As for the guitar tone, that clean warm tone works for some songs but not for others.

 

I feel like the excuse / explanation that they and fans give is that the trilogy was supposed to be "off the cuff" sounding but there's a difference between a raw rock recording and sounding like you just recorded a practice amp direct into pro tools

 

the trilogy is weird to me as an outside observer, because I always thought that the biggest issue with 21CB was that it was too bloated and intent on re-capturing or outdoing the lightning in a bottle (in terms of cultural impact / musical moment) success of AI, so why did they then pivot into trying to go even bigger after that?

it almost feels like RR would have been a more natural follow-up to 21CB than the trilogy in terms of truly going "back to basics" in so much as Green Day in the 2010s and 30 years into their career could go "back to basics"

From quotes Billie Joe gave about the trilogy in the lead-up to RR it seems like he feels the same, but who knows I could just be word vomiting per usual

 

They definitely acknowledged that the trilogy was mostly directionless and they made mistakes with it, but they've also said they still like the songs and just need a break from them.

 

yeah, this is what I was mostly getting at

I feel like if you're going to do something as ambitious as a triple album, you have to make sure you have the creative juice to go for it

Like Jason said, the best songs on the trilogy would never make my list of favorites from almost any of their other albums, idk it mostly just feels like a 30+ song collection of B-Sides

Maybe they just felt like they needed a palette cleanser or thought they really had the material? Or maybe it was just a case of a band having too much of a blank check and not really thinking they needed an editor

Again, I get why people and the band like the trilogy and for die hard fans it's cool that it exists, it just continues to confound me all these years later

 

I think at the time they legitimately thought it was their best material and they wanted to put it all out because they believed in it. I think that really shows when you watch Cuatro, the making of documentary.

 

yeah i hear a lot of "well its supposed to be like a garage rock album!!!" but like, Japandroids and Cloud Nothings have great sounding records with great tones and theyre garage rock

 

That's probably true though it often doesn't feel like it haha

 

i guess our biggest divide is you are (generally) more into...i dont want this to come across as an insult because u know i love you but "poppy" or "lighter" music? like, when i think of you i think of like GD, ATL, Bon Iver, Yellowcard, etc and i like all those bands too but i generally lean towards more "aggressive" or "heavy" music and while we do for sure have some intersection and common interest in many bands we also just prefer two starkly contrasting sounds haha.

plus youre just wrong a lot of the time so :P

 

Haha nah that's not insulting, that's exactly how I'd describe my taste too. I certainly don't lean towards the heavier stuff, with a couple exceptions like ETID - but even then I can only listen to them so much and have to be in the right mood for it. And with a band like Thursday, I much prefer No Devolucion to any of their other work because it's much more focused on texture and, generally speaking, less aggressive.

 

right, whereas im the type to go "i want yall to get even heavier and more aggressive" lol. im definitely a emo/posthardcore/altrock kinda guy. but like you said i have exceptions, Yellowcard and MCS obviously but also stuff like The National.

at least we can both agree that the trilogy is pretty much shit

 

Yeah, and I wanted to like it so much too as such a big Green Day fan. I remember my first listens to Uno and Dos in my freshman dorm room and just thinking "...something's not quite right here" haha.

 

I remember thinking ¡Uno! was fun when I first heard it, bought the CD and everything and was hyped for the next two

then I hardly listened to it again after those initial weeks and took like years to listen to the other two in full

 

I've been trying to force myself to like Rev Radio more. There are some really good songs on there like Too Dumb To Die, Forever Now, Bang Bang, Still Breathing...I would say I'm almost halfway impressed with the album. definitely their best since AI.

I hope they change their sound up on the next album and stop with the garage rock stuff though.

 

I remember thinking "well, hopefully this is the worst of the three"... then when I first heard Dos I think I actually posted on AP that it was much better than Uno and I was relieved, and that feeling didn't last long haha

 

Outlaws is still my favorite track on the record. No one ever talks about it except me!

 

That's the track I've skipped every time since the first listen haha

 

Revolution Radio should have closed with Forever Now.

 

I think they were going for an AI thing where Homecoming is the big epic ending and then Whatsername is like the chill epilogue, but I do agree that Ordinary World didn't really need to be there, and is probably their weakest acoustic song imo. Still like it but wouldn't have been upset if it had just stayed as a song BJ wrote for the movie. (also Whatsername is an incredible song)