Nothing has ever really been confirmed. He recorded guitar on the entire trilogy with Billie, but it looks like he didn't record with them this time around.
I really don't get how this is suppose to destroy pop-punk, it's just more pop-punk? if anything it's building up pop-punk if they wanted to destroy pop-punk they should of done something that was actually punk since they're just about the biggest name in the genre
It goes with the territory that any time a band says "we're not pop-punk" or "we're going to kill pop-punk" ... they're basically about to release the most pop-punk stuff of their career. Heh.
yeah I just don't understand why they would say it at all it just makes them seem like they're not self-aware at all lol I just think it'd be funny if green day tried to make super "punk" music even though I know it'd just be like that Fall Out Boy PAX AM days which isn't really funny
I've listened to the new song multiple times now, read over the lyrics a bunch, and I still don't know what I'm supposed to be getting from this song. What it's supposed to be saying about violence, the media, or guns. I don't know how I'm supposed to feel, or what the message even is, let alone if it's achieving it. Knowing what the song is about makes it hard to actually enjoy it, knowing women lost their lives, and I can't figure out if this services that horrific act in a way that doesn't just make me uneasy. The music is pretty generic Green Day, which is fine, but there's something off about the song that I can't quite put my finger on yet. It doesn't make me wanna listen to it very often, which is never a good sign, but that's about all I really know at the moment.
yeah I kind of felt the same way, he said he was trying to write from the perspective of someone who would do such a thing, but the whole song is just trying to be ironic about it and in a round about way sort of glorifies it? Like if I didn't know what the intention of the song was I don't think it would come off as anti-violence
Yeah, the subject matter is extremely loaded and it makes sense that it would make some people uncomfortable. Completely understandable.
Message wise, what I am getting from it is the tongue and cheek aspect that has always been signature Green Day. Similar to Having a Blast off Dookie. And I am sure there are other songs I can't think of off the top of my head. What are we supposed to do with that? I don't know. I like the song. It's good to hear them energized. I hated their last four releases, granted that I know every word.
I agree with this whole-heartedly. I love what Billie Joe and Green Day are capable of...however, I feel they peaked with politics in American Idiot. I'm sorry to say I feel that 21st Century Breakdown was the follow up that just didn't quite do it. I'm not really digging this song, honestly. When the title track American Idiot came out, everyone thought "Holy crap, Green Day is back!". This is a poor Know Your Enemy attempt to me... That being said, Blink has came back revitalized as all hell. "Bored to Death" killed it in the music world. Would love to see them carry on and take things further. Maybe then Green Day can take a few notes and not drop anymore three part doodoo albums
I really don't know how I feel about this song either. I think the guitars, bass and drums sound really good but I feel like I've heard the instrumental part before, just can't put my finger on it. Sounds like it could have been an abandoned instrumental to American Idiot or 21CB, which doesn't mean it's a bad thing. I don't know about the subject matter or the lyrics really. Not sure how much I'll go back and listen to it. I'm kind of disappointed to be honest.
I dig this song, better than anything from the triple album if I recall. Haven't listened to those albums in about 3 years though.
I'm guessing Green Day probably already decided a couple years ago that they wouldn't be dropping any more three part doodoo albums. They don't need to take notes from anybody else to figure that one out.
I don't think it's being "ironic". I think it's a very Brechtian approach to songwriting. Which is to say that Bille Joe isn't giving his opinion on the events, but presenting them as what the shooter's potential perspective was. If you read the Rolling Stone interview, he says that that is more or less his intention: Personally, I'm a huge fan of that attitude currently. I'm pretty tired of songs leading me by the nose on how I'm supposed to feel.
I think the song is a criticism of how the media basically makes these shooters celebrities after these incidents happen, thereby creating an environment where shooters are consistently copycatting each other. I'm still not 100% sure it's successful in that regard, but I appreciate them reaching for something provocative and thought-provoking instead of just turning in a catchy single with no substance or risk. I totally understand why it might rub some people the wrong way, though.
Late to the party, but this song is exactly what I wanted after the trilogy. Pretty much washes away the bummer of that era for me. There IS something that feels new about it, while recalling a time where I didn't think I could love Green Day more than I already did.
I was just trying to come up with my ten favorite Green Day songs. It was difficult, but here's what I came up with, in no particular order: Pulling Teeth Stuart and the Ave. Hitchin' a Ride American Idiot Letterbomb Wake Me Up When September Ends Homecoming Whatsername Viva La Gloria? (Little Girl) Restless Heart Syndrome I'm aware it's probably a weird list, haha. There were a couple others from Nimrod I wanted to throw in but didn't have room.
Very happy that the new song sounds good, will cross my fingers all the way up till I hear the whole album. :x