This article has been imported from chorus.fm for discussion. All of the forum rules still apply. GreenDayFans.com has shared the new track listing for Green Day’s upcoming album. Imagine my surprise when an anonymous package, postmarked from California, arrived in my mailbox containing the album we’ve all been waiting for, Green Day’s Father Of All Motherfuckers which isn’t due out until February 7, 2020! Alas, my initial excitement was only slightly dampened when it turned out the package contained just the vinyl sleeve for Green Day’s 13th studio album and did not include any type of insert, but I certainly wasn’t complaining. Track Listing Father Of All… Fire, Ready, Aim Oh Yeah! Meet Me On The Roof I Was A Teenage Teenager Stab You In The Heart Sugar Youth Junkies On A High Take The Money And Crawl Graffitia Expand - View Original
“I Was A Teenage Teenager” is most likely a strong contender for the worst song title of 2020 and it’s only January 3rd! It might be cool to hear a Green Day song about the 80s though!
Reading this absolute shite track listing really does make me think they have another album ready to go and this is just a final FU to their label.
I actually think these are some of their most interesting titles in a long time, I actually love that I'm going into a Green Day album not knowing what to expect for probably the first time ever
You would think so, but they seem to be super into performing this new stuff. I just can't get into it.
I'll never understand why this is a problem. Many albums in the past (think around the 70's and 80's) had less than 10. Ten songs is actually pretty average. At least it has more than 7, which is technically all that it takes to upgrade it from being an EP.
When it comes to music, everyone always refers to short attention spans. But, movies are often over two+ hours. With music you are free to move. With movies, you are situated in a seat looking at the same place. Also, I don’t think people want bands playing shorter sets at live shows because of short attentions spans. The less songs on albums lately trend feels like a business decision and not an artistic decision. I’d be more willing to wait a few years for a band to write an album that feels full and complete (and doesn’t mean long in terms of minutes). Again, I’ll refer to Bad Religion’s Age of Unreason (2019). 14 songs (34 or so minutes), plus two bsides on top of that (totalling just over 38 minutes). I will say Insomniac was 14 songs and only around 32-34 minutes or so, plus a bside on top of that. Just my preference though. Bands and labels will do what they want. Seeing Green Day’s last album was also longer (and they’ve put out lots of albums with more songs and long records) I buy the mailing it in claims a bit more hear (even though the idea of mailing it it sounds crazy).
Oh, yeah, it's often a business decision. I mean, other than the pennies on the dollar that you can make from streaming, an artist will make the same per units sold of an album whether it's 7 songs or 17 songs. It doesn't take a great amount of brilliance to figure out that things like deluxe reissues and b sides exist largely for purposes of revenue. Basically anything over 7 songs on an album is a bonus, with certain obvious exceptions. Shorter albums isn't a new trend. Ten songs has been an average for decades and many albums back in the day only had like 8 songs. Yeah, I get the personal preference thing and I don't disagree. I love longer albums too. Well, the ones that aren't cluttered with filler. However, I get that nobody is obligated to release a 12+ song album. I'll take a solid 10 songs over an album with 8 good songs and 4 mediocre songs. Sorry if this seems incoherent. i didn't get much sleep last night.
I guess this is just becoming more noticeable with bands that’d have releases with 2 more songs and 8 more minutes of music on an album. Growing up in the 90’s, when the music medium changed to CD, bands had so much more room than ever. That’s where filler became more apparent. So many albums had secret tracks, or novelty tracks. Pearl Jam’s song Bugs comes to mind off Vitalogy. I think eras mediums changed a lot. I think radio requirements changed a lot. I get streaming services are a current game changer. But there are lots of bands I love currently doing 10 year anniversary tours on albums that were huge for their career. They are still profiting off those releases 10 years later. I can’t imagine Green Day a Father Of All...10 Year Anniversary Tour for a 26 minute album. That’s an encore for some acts. There’s obviously no set in stone rule for good reason. I do find myself noticing the album has fewer tracks when listening to albums from bands like Thrice’ Palms or Jimmy Eat World’s Surviving. Also, in both situations, both bands have 4+ songs left off, so they each could have been 11–12 songs (if the songs flowed, and they would have for Thrice).
Do not get the hate for Father of All (the song) at all, I really like it, especially the chorus Fire Ready Aim isn't great though
So is the album title/song actually called “Father of All Motherfuckers” and is just censored to “Father of All...”?