Green Day - Saviors (January 19th, 2024) • Page 70

I think the clear top 3 are
Dilemma (their best song since AI? Tied with Still Breathing for me)
Goodnight Adeline (what a chorus)
Fancy Sauce (love how they ride the chorus melody)

I think Dilemma and Fancy sauce are great because they are about sobriety and come from a real place. Whereas way too many latter day Green Day songs seem phoned in lyrically. It especially grinded on me in the trilogy era how many times Billie would say a line and then the next line is just a lazy similie ie "screaming bloody murder / like a nuclear bomb"; "breaking in a sweat / like a bomb threat"; "I went down / like the speed of sound"; "stab my heart / like a stick in the mud"; "stab out my heart / like a dartboard"; "hours and hours / like the dog years of the day"..... you get the point (and these are just from Uno, I feel like it got worse after that)

 

Top 3 for me richt now are Living in the ‘20s, Look Ma, and Coma City

 

Coma City, Dilemma, and 1981 at the moment but it changes pretty often tbh

 

Living In The 20’s, Dilemma, Strange Days

Goodnight Adeline is pretty close too.

 

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DO YOU WANNA BE MY BOYYYYFRIEEEEEND

 

20’s, Look Ma, probably Strange Days but maybe title track

 

Top 3 for me is Look Ma, No Brains!, Bobby Sox and Living in the ‘20s

 

NeedleDrop hates it…3/10 lol. Someone commented, “If this were Jeff Rosenstock, you would have given it an 8”, which is very very true.

 

that’s how you know it’s good

 

I'm surprised Suzie Chapstick isn't getting more love, it's very possibly my favorite

The only song I'm not really into so far is Corvette Summer

 

So would you say it's...

100% pure uncut rock?

 

First listen Suzie was my least favourite. But now I like it and Corvette Summer is by far my least favourite.

 

I think Adeline and 1981 would be good single choices

 

I'm loving the album, it's like a stripped down American Idiot. I feel like the 4 songs from Coma City to Strange Days could easily fit in Warning.

 

Suzie Chapstick is my favorite! It's just hard to listen to lol.

 

oh alright thanks for telling me how i feel i guess

 

Green Day: Saviors

arielle is a great writer and i agree with almost all of the points she brings up in here but it does seem a little odd to not mention dilemma once

 

Really had to roll my eyes at the hyperlink to the Train song in that review. That entire section is a waste of words. Songwriters reference and quote all the time! Felt like she was reaching for one more thing to dump on and that was what she came up with.

I get being put off by the "return to form" marketing of the album; I'm also tired of that narrative being seemingly the only way once-popular rock bands or their labels can sell people on anything new. And I think putting this album in that Dookie/American Idiot lineage is the wrong way to talk about it, because then it pretty obviously falls short. But so much of what I've read on this album seems to go into it with the same smug "This band isn't good anymore, but LOL at them for trying!" mindset that colors so much writing about older artists, and I just hate that so much. It's because of that mindset that we get the constant "we're going back to basics" narratives in the first place.

 

My thoughts exactly. Outside of this forum, there's a lot of people shitting on them just to shit on them. It bugs me.

 

Also for a 5.1 score, I thought there would've been at least one positive in the review. Nothing. Just sentence after sentence saying how tired they think this band is.

 

I'm absolutely not saying there's nothing to criticize about this album, and I don't like kicking Pitchfork when they are down. But man, I just get so tired of seeing stuff like this closing kicker: "It’s a shame to see them trade in the legacy of their best work while repeating themselves as farce." Aging bands and artists repeat themselves because we largely give them no other lane than "play the hits." And Green Day, to their credit, did an album last time that wasn't like anything they'd ever done before; people hated it! (Though, to their credit, Pitchfork actually did give that one some kudos for trying new things; FOAM got a 6.7, and a thoughtful, open-minded review from Evan Rytlewski.)

 

I don’t know, this really feels like one of those reviews where I wonder if we listened to the same album. Even the short line about Mike’s bass being barely audible in the mix….literally one of my first thoughts after listening was how pumped I was at how clearly I heard the bass, and how interesting the parts were.