Green Day - Saviors (January 19th, 2024) • Page 27

I've never thought of Green Day at all when listening to TBP lol

 

if you listen to the songs instrumentally, sure. gerard is 100% going for a bja type beat

 

The Black Parade doesn’t sound like Green Day per se, but the formula is the same. The songcraft is similar, not the writing.

Rob Cavallo’s records from that era show a broadway sensibility that seems clearer now after he spent a decade there.

 

Eh, the album really wasn’t noteworthy within the context the book was speaking to.

 

American Idiot definitely feels like a cut-off point for when "pop-punk" fell out of the mainstream and "emo" / alternative rock took over as one of the dominant sounds of rock music*. Billie Joe's usage of eyeliner definitely had an impact on culture as a whole.

I wouldn't say they're massively similar records, but I do think that Black Parade would be a different album if American Idiot didn't exist beforehand.

*Nothing ever happens in one go of course; blink's Untitled album also contributed.

 

on the topic of GD/MCR, some photos from Chris Lord Alge's studio...

snare notes for Nimrod:

green day tapes...stored in the bathroom

this sticker was there one time when i was there and gone the next...

 

best for last, be cool and don't post these anywhere i don't wanna get in trouble

 

Bulletproof Heart rocks and is the best song on that album.

 

it's ok, we'll just say Tom Delonge posted them

 

Dont get fresh brad

 

Redundant fucking rules and is so underrated

 

Yeah, this. They are definitely not carbon copies, but American Idiot opened up a lane and drew up a playbook that MCR followed soon after.

 

I think The Black Parade is fully MCR, it's a record Gerard was born to make, but there's no way a record label would have had so much confidence and pushed it to the extent they did without American Idiot happening two years prior.

 

Murder City came on shuffle yesterday and I had this thought exactly.

 

The Nimrod song list is super interesting. Have they all been released?
Edit: just did some research and wow, there's a bunch of songs that appear to have not been released from the Nimrod sessions. Crazy that they didn't release them as part of the 25th anniversary edition.

 

Also didn't My Chem use the same director for the black parade music videos that Green Day did for their American Idiot videos?

 

Sure did!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Bayer

 

Really kinda funny that Jawbreaker did the exact same thing in '95 (got the same producer and video director as Green Day) and had very, very different results success-wise. LOL

 

What’s a better album?

Dear You or The Black Parade?

 

It's purely subjective and you really can't compare the two because they're objectively different with what they were aiming to achieve and the climate/landscape at the time... But I'd say that Dear You was roughly 8 years ahead of its time whereas Black Parade was the right album at the right moment.

I just find it funny/interesting that one band tried the same thing and the album tanked.

 

:) I don't want to be a dead man walking (youtube.com)

 

MCR also opened for Green Day on the American Idiot tour.

 

lol wtf! Didn’t know this. Were there other songs featuring Godzilla in the soundtrack or just this one?

 

is this a serious question