I'll listen to worship and tribute and Google the lyrics to that first one, see how I feel about it after listening to the rest, thanks for all the responses
i think it fell through because the label was ~cool~ but also incompetent and key people the band liked had left the company so they bailed
And the title track, which is my favourite Glassjaw song and one of the rawest songs I've ever heard. All about Daryl's Crohn's disease
This discussion led me to throw on EYEWTK for the first time in years today. Have to admit, the catchier tracks like Pretty Lush, RyRy's Song, Lovebites, and Boom are more infectious than I remembered. Although the screamo sections don't do much for me and the lyrics dip into cringe territory far too often to overlook, the melodic adventurousness that would be fully realized on W&T still shows up here in healthy doses. And Daryl sounds wonderful when he's not trying too hard. Not a record I'd revisit regularly, but definitely worth hearing to appreciate the origins of the really great stuff that followed in their career.
Boom, One Eight, and the title track are 3 of my favorite GJ songs. Ry Ry's song is so catchy that it's up there for me as well. I removed a few songs like Pushing and Shoving or whatever it's called because I'd be embarrassed to let someone borrow my ipod if that were to ever come up on random. With the others, it depends on my mood whether or not I'll skip them. From what I know Daryl isn't a complete monster now and he even admits the lyrics are awful so I don't feel bad enjoying the music and turning a blind eye to some of the lyrics. It's a weird situation but I don't think it deserves to be counted out entirely.
i decided im gonna listen to that first one eventually, but mostly because i don't feel entirely right criticizing things i haven't experienced, which is probably dumb but can't help it atm i've never listened to letlive bc i thought they were a bad metalcore band or smth and i've never heard metalcore i liked (but i've also never really looked so) but i'll listen to this
letlive. around that time was a really chaotic post hardcore band with some jazz and r&b influences. These days they're closer to a pop band I guess? I can get how you'd think that - they definitely got lumped in with the tragic hero/warped tour scene. But they're way better than any of those bands and fake history is worth a listen at least
sounds p wild, i'll definitely give that a listen, thanks. interested in how you progress to a pop band from that, that sounds p cool too
Love bites has some nasty lyrics. Letlives "Fake History" got me into hardcore when I was in highschool in 2010, along with W&T.
"Love bites" and "hotel" are the only ones that I have a hard time getting through. I love the hidden track.
Part of the reason I'm fine listening to EYEWTKAS is because I don't think it was ever true that he was a complete monster. It's a break-up record that captures the raw pain and anger of a broken man who was cheated on while he was in hospital thinking he was going to die. No one's going to make an argument that the lyrics are 'condonable' because they're really not - they're utterly vile at times. Genuinely awful. That, however, is what I think the record's meant to show. Many people will spit out the most horrible things to someone who's cheated on them or in some way emotionally crushed them. I know that on occasion, I've been so angry with someone that I've had thoughts about that person that I am morally completely opposed to. I hate the idea that any satisfaction should be gained by someone dying but there's at least a couple of people in the past that, at the time, I've secretly hoped would die because of the hurt they caused me. I know I've also said the most spiteful things to hurt them in the same way that they've hurt me. There's absolutely no rationality to it - it's purely emotional. In my honest assessment, EYEWTKAS is just that; a spiteful and yet painful emotional response with absolutely no filter applied. The fact that Daryl clearly finds it hard to relate to the lyrics and the feel of that record now is just evidence of what it was. And it's why, I still unashamedly love that album. You can't fake that level of emotion in the vocals and you can't fake the constant switches in tone between pain and anger that exist almost parallel to the sort of emotional reaction people tend to have in that sort of situation. In my opinion, that's what that album is. You have to listen to it in a completely different way than you'd listen to W+T. The latter is more rounded and more mature and works because of that. EYEWTKAS is chaotic and unrestrained and works because of that. I don't begrudge anyone who won't listen to it either by the way. If Daryl was still writing similar things then my assessment would be wrong and I wouldn't be listening to it either. Sorry, long post.
Yikes. That anger and ferocity comes from toxic aggression towards a woman. Loving an album that has those themes is pretty gross @JM95
also y'all should check out Husbandry. heavy GJ (plus dillinger/etid/deftones) vibes sung by a woman of color. extremely tight band
The two 2011 EPs were fantastic, but W&T is still their opus in my book. I can listen to it straight through any day of the week, whereas each of the EPs had one or two weaker tracks.