Ghostbusters (Paul Feig, 2016) Movie • Page 40

His quote from yesterday was shitty but in all fairness he said almost the exact same thing as that tweet verbatim when this was announced

 

Feig’s too busy giving us the A Simple Favor universe, god willing

 

Right. That's what I said. This is the first time he's apologized for his comments about his new movie since he started promoting it weeks ago. He's clearly only doing it now because his new comments have generated a fresh batch of criticism after the previous criticism had died down.

 

I’m saying when he promoted it weeks ago, he said something to the effect of he respected GB2016 and Paul and the cast. He didn’t really have anything to apologize for until the shitty “back to the fans” thing yesterday AFAIK.

 

Feig seems like a legit good person, using his platform to try and help in various ways, and here trying to stem the online fighting again ... and it will forever piss me off what the internet did to him, that movie, and the actresses in it. It's a good movie that has more charm and moxy than most Marvel films the bro-nerds eat up.

 

Almost the first thing out of his mouth weeks ago was that this one was "for the fans."

 

I think this is the quote you’re referring to

IMO there’s nothing wrong with that. He’s just saying he’s wanted to make a movie for GB fans, which Feig said plenty of times too. Saying “back to the fans” brings in a whole new layer of gross connotations.

 

Don't be obtuse. He knew exactly what he was saying.

 

I’m as wary of the discourse around Ghostbusters as anyone but I genuinely think it’s a reach to interpret a piece of fairly generic PR speak as some kind of misogynistic dog whistling. I’ve seen Reitman’s movies, I know he doesn’t have that kind of tactical foresight. He doesn’t discount GB2016 in his statement at all, not even by implication.

If we’re gonna just keep incrementally posting the rest of his statement as if it’s some big revelation, might as well post the next part

It’s all just standard pr drivel

 

Right but paying lip service to the reboot doesn't erase the fact that the first thing out of his mouth was a dog whistle to the fanboys who hated the reboot. Like, I'm not even suggesting he's intentionally being misogynist, I honestly think he's trying to market his movie to the people who are. Which in a way is almost worse, though, when you think about it. There's a reason why he didn't just say "I wanted to take a shot at making the sequel my father never got to" and leave it at that. He said "for the fans" for a reason. It's been the central theme of his pitch since day one. That specific phrase means something.

 

Taken in context, that this was on Bill Burr's podcast, a comedian known for being contrarian and catering to a certain male demographic, Reitman saying how he's going to give "Ghostbusters" "back to the fans" sounds like pandering to the same people that bitched about the 2016 version. Maybe he didn't think it through. But it deserves to be called out.

 

I might agree with you if “for the fans” wasn’t such a commonly-used phrase for any sort of movie based on a property with an established fanbase. It might have a different context here since the “fan” reaction to the last movie was so highly-publicized but whether that’s the nerve Reitman was trying to hit and/or whether that’s an acceptable marketing strategy is a different story and a more nuanced point than I originally thought you were making.

“Back to the fans” is unequivocally bad in every possible way tho

 

The Furore Around Jason Reitman’s GHOSTBUSTERS Is Exhausting And Overblown

 

Could not disagree with that piece more. There's no reason to proclaim, more than once, that this one is "for the fans" other than to signal a specific type of person. Again, not saying Reitman himself is a misogynist or a sexist, but he is pandering to those types of people by using that language to promote the movie. And if he's really not intentionally dogwhistling to them, hopefully he wont do it a third time.

 

Sadly he needs to pander to anyone and everyone to fill seats regardless of malintent

 

okay back on board

 

FUCK Jason Reitman, FUCK Ghostbusters fans, and FUCK. THIS. MOVIE.

Oh, Carrie Coon? Yeah ok I’ll be there opening night

 

Same.

 

I have no idea why they led with those vague “for the fans” statements that could be so easily misconstrued when this is so clearly a different direction for the series entirely. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from those comments that I wouldn’t have had if this was part of the first announcement.

 

Kind of proves my point, too, that he was just saying it to pander to the worst fans because he was clearly trying to soften the response from them to the actual direction the movie was taking.

 

My guess is that it exists in the same universe, meaning the GB saved the city twice in the 80s and since retired or passed, so a new crop of busters reopen the business, which is how I wish they went with the Paul Feig movie.

 

I legitimately really like Finn Wolfhard lol

 

Finn is going to be Egon’s son, isn’t he?

 

He's been ready

 

Since it’s set in roughly the present day, I would assume Carrie is going to be someone’s daughter if they are going for a family connection.