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Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by Melody Bot, Mar 27, 2018.

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  1. Zoshchenko

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  3. Jason Tate @jason_tate @encorepodcast Staff Member

    I met Hank Green once. He’s super nice.
    Random name drop.
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  4. SoCoWilderNeSs

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    To avoid avoid another shutdown it sounds like Dems are prepared to give Trump 55 miles of border fencing they are trying to call "border structures" while Trump already referred to it as border wall being built.

    Why the F are they going to cave? This is about to be a massive victory for Trump. Even if he only got 1 mile of wall it would have been a massive victory, he's going to get 55. The art of the deal I guess? Democrats are being so freaking stupid.
  5. popdisaster00

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    Yeah...people are gonna shoot doctors
  6. Jason Tate @jason_tate @encorepodcast Staff Member

    Uh. No? They agreed the less than what was in the budget, about 1.3b, no money for a wall.

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  7. SoCoWilderNeSs

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    Okay I'm confused, is this new fence in areas where there isn't pre-existing fencing? I was under the impression that Dems had been taking a stance of absolutely no funding towards additional border "wall".
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  9. Zoshchenko

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    Same! Went to his book tour last fall and there was a meet & greet thing if you purchased tickets early enough. It made me realize that meet & greets are not for me
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  10. Jason Tate @jason_tate @encorepodcast Staff Member

    Hahaha. Same. Actually maybe just people and public events are not for me :crylaugh:
  11. Jason Tate @jason_tate @encorepodcast Staff Member

    We don’t know for sure, but it looks like less than they wanted for fencing (1.3b vs 1.6b in OG budget), no where near the 5b he wanted for a wall, and a reduction in ICE beds. Ice wanted 65k. They’re not getting that. Dems tried to cap it way lower but it’ll probably end up at 40k.

    It was a massive failure for Trump. He shut down the government to get less than what the budget deal Dems woulda already passed a month ago had in it. Got nothing close to actual wall funding, and less in bollard fence funding than he coulda had a month ago.

    He’s gonna keep pretending he built a wall anyway, which is very funny to me.
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  12. David87

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    He should have started a "Fuck John Cornyn!" WWE-style chant with the crowd to announce his bid for senate tonight.
  13. Jason Tate @jason_tate @encorepodcast Staff Member

    And once he watches tv tonight he’s probably gonna veto it anyway heh
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  14. SoCoWilderNeSs

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    My confusion in how this news is being reported thus far scares the shit out of me honestly. I am someone who follows politics closely and often go down the rabbit hole and waste hours of my day on it and Trump and Co have muddied the waters so much with all of the false and crazy rhetoric that even I'm confused. It's hard to know which way is up anymore. It's no wonder his base who probably only sees headlines on Fox News will readily believe anything he says.

    The propaganda machine is strong.
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  15. Jason Tate @jason_tate @encorepodcast Staff Member

    Good thread on why the bed argument matters even though no one talked about it and focused on a wall and way too much money going to something dumb anyway imo

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  16. David87

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    Yeah ultimately he's getting less funding for physical barriers than what was in the original proposed budget that passed the senate 98-0 and would have passed the House with Dem votes before Trump made the shutdown threat/decision.

    It's hard to say absolutely no physical barriers when the experts are saying it's needed in certain areas, so you had to go in expecting they were prob gonna get some of it. The fact that they made it so that Trump shut down the government and got less than he would have gotten pre-shut down should be pretty easy to spin and probably means Trump gets crushed in the media tomorrow.

    Which probably means he vetos, veto gets overridden, and he declares national emergency and it goes to the courts.
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  17. Jason Tate @jason_tate @encorepodcast Staff Member

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  18. SoCoWilderNeSs

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    Will McConnell even allow for that veto override voting process to be taken up on the Senate Floor?
  19. David87

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    If he doesn't we're back into a partial shutdown and I don't think he wants that after what just happened. I guess we'll see but it's hard to believe he'd let his caucus endure that again.
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  20. Jake Gyllenhaal

    I'm Idaho!

    RIP Kathie Lee

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  21. Jason Tate @jason_tate @encorepodcast Staff Member


    Look the people that believe this shit I’ve got nothing anymore
  22. Jason Tate @jason_tate @encorepodcast Staff Member

    His real policy advisor ain’t buying it
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  23. Jason Tate @jason_tate @encorepodcast Staff Member

    2020 where one dude says he built a wall and people in Michigan vote on if they believe it or not and that’s how we decide the leader of our country fuck yes
  24. Jason Tate @jason_tate @encorepodcast Staff Member

    This is a tweet designed for me to like it
  25. Jason Tate @jason_tate @encorepodcast Staff Member


    I rest my case about cats
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