That's interesting because I remember it very differently. It pretty much got strong backlash from the initial announcement, even on here.
George R.R. Martin flew to New York to 'beg' an HBO executive to make 'Game of Thrones' 10 seasons long, according to his agent "George would fly to New York to have lunch with Plepler, to beg him to do ten seasons of ten episodes because there was enough material for it and to tell him it would be a more satisfying and more entertaining experience,"
George always knew. Sigh. What could have been. Imagine getting a fully fleshed out Dorne story with Arianne and the Young Griff story and a potentially more satisfying Stannis story and even maybe Lady Stoneheart. ugh.
Like, this is incredibly frustrating. Bryan Cogman and Miguel Sapochnik were right there. You can't tell me Cogman didn't ahve the same nerdy love for the world that Dave and Dan did and couldn't have taken the reigns after season 4 as showrunner.
Lmao dude could've maybe written the source material and that would've been more convincing than just telling them to come up with it themselves.
It kind of sounds like this wouldn't have mattered. Apparently Martin had a plan that they chose not to follow, so maybe Martin writing more material wouldn't have changed a thing.
Better that a show run it’s course than drag on and recycle stories and scenarios. Could it have ended better, very possibly. You’re never gonna make everyone happy though. Jon Snow coming back to life may have been the most predictable thing in the shows history to me, so it’d be hard for me to complain to much about the final Season.
Been rewatching this. I honestly would have been satisfied if they just did Bran's storyline justice. In hindsight I think it felt flawed going back to probably season 5. They never followed up on the significance of Bran's ability to alter the timeline so the whole Hodor thing feels wasted, they teased multiple times that Bran was going to Worg into a Dragon and that never happened, the involvement of the Reed siblings seem pointless in the longterm, we don't really get a fleshed out idea of what being the Three Eyed Raven even means so Bran's ultimate ending just feels kind of unearned and confusing.
Also just started reading Fire and Blood. I'll say I am pretty optimistic about House of the Dragon. I don't think the same mistakes can be made on a story whose entire outline is already layed out, and is comparatively limited in length (for the Dance of Dragons bit that is).
Agree with most of that. The end just feels strange because we really have no idea what the implications are for the 3ER being on the throne (or why he even suddenly WANTED the throne despite never mentioning it even once). What does he plan to do differently for the world? His actual motivations are like nonexistent. Beyond that, we don’t know if the Stark siblings, much less everyone else in Westeros, even understands or knows who or what Bran is… Yet they seem to be fine with picking him to be King (even though he otherwise seems to be pretty unqualified for the job). There’s also the notion that if he really did orchestrate all of these events to get himself on the throne, that means that he either orchestrated the genocide of Kings Landing (at worst) or didn’t help to prevent it (at best) despite being able to see some of the future. So I’m not sure how happy of am ending that actually was. It really just felt like they left out a ton of important clarifications about what the characters knew or how they felt. It left it feeling more like they just drew a name out of a hat to decide the winner and had no bigger meaning at all.
Bran getting to be king seems like it might be GRRM's endgame (though even in the books it's still not really on the radar yet. The best evidence is that Bran was the first story he started book 1 with and thus he seems like he must be an important character in the end), and it seems like Dan and David had no idea how to actually make that happen in as short a time as they wanted to. It sucks. It could have been fleshed out so much better if they did 10 10 episode seasons,
To me it's a shitty decision and very telling of them as showrunners that they would choose to speed to the end just so they could move on to other things and ruin it for the people watching the show instead of just handing the show off to other showrunners. Like, I feel like way too much stock was put in their abilities. I'm getting madder the more I think about it.
Currently a little over a quarter way done with Fire and Blood, and i've already thought "i bet HBO could do another spin off just based off this story" multiple times. Remember House Of The Dragon is based on only maybe a little over a 300 pages of a 750 page book, there's at least 4 or 5 other series they could do based off the other half of that book alone, and that's just Volume 1. I'm thinking we're going to get adaptations of ASOIAF lore for a very long time. Personally i'd think it'd be cool if they did an adaptation of "A Caution for Young Girls".
HBO already has a project in development titled " Ten Thousand Ships" will supposedly will be about Nymeria leading the Rhoynar to Dorne. It's unclear if this is going to be live action or if it's one of the animated GoT projects HBO said they're planning.
I had the same thoughts as I read it. They could make a pretty kickass anthology series set in the world with all the little stories GRRM has enriched the world with. Just getting a season or so on the reign of Jaehaerys would be great. I want to see what happens to Aerea on screen hah. Plus that would mean we'd get Elissa Farman too. I realllllly hope they don't got the animated route.
I was somewhat interested in the First men concept but that seemed like a horrible horrible choice for the first spinoff.
I'm confused by the article - was the First Men concept what the $30 million dollar pilot was using that had the plug pulled on it...? I liked the idea of a prequel series set a long time before the show, way in the past. I have no desire to watch a House of the Dragon show, although it's probably a good investment for HBO setting the show much closer to the GoT timeline.
Yeah that one was supposed to be about the Starks, set way back at the time of the first Long Night. So we basically would have been seeing (presumably) the war between the First Men and the Children of the Forest that led to the creation of the White Walkers. Like I said, I was interested in it for sure, but it was going to have virtually no familiarity to GOT fans outside of the Stark name. The Wall, Winterfell, and virtually none of the other names in the show existed in Westeros or the North at the time. Wouldn't have been a good way to hook back GOT fans in.
But also I am pumped for House of the Dragon, because reading Fire & Blood I know the story is pretty awesome haha