Glad y'all sorted this out. Yes, I meant peace, and I was referring to my tacit endorsement of what was written in the article (for pedantry's sake).
So when Tyrion said he loved Dany but not as successfully as Jon, was he confirming he was in love with her? Did I ask this already? I was reminded of it again today
I took it as he loved her in a different, non-romantic way but not as successfully as Jon loved her in his romantic way.
I also think he struggled with his love for her (which like the others in here I didn't read as romantic, exactly) more than Jon did. Jon was kinda all in until shortly before he got all stabby and Tyrion tried really hard to be (RIP Varys) but I feel like he just had so many demons it was never that simple for him. Jon Snow loved his auntie. REALLY loved her.
That’s another thread that needed more time. Based on what was dramatized I don’t buy Jon Snow not immediately confronting Dany over what she did, her actions taking precedent over how much he loves her. He’s the most completely moral character on the show and he defends war crimes that he recognized on the battlefield as war crimes.
Idk, you're not wrong at ALL but I sort of chalked that one up to him always wanting to see the best in people. I feel like that would've been such a complex thing to grapple with; I could see him trying to rationalize it for a minute. Especially if he was in shock, which anyone would've been. Definitely rushed though.
I’m blanking off the top of my head on any specific instances but I feel like any other instance where someone he knows/cares about breaches his moral ideals he attempts to stand up for what he believes to be right. The show kind of tries to paint him as being in denial, I feel like, and doesn’t really even address any of his love for her from when he rebukes her pre-battle through the very last seconds before he stabs her. Without the time to really dive into how complex a situation it is for him, it just can’t land.
You could absolutely be right, for whatever reason my brain is blanking on examples of that as well (in either direction) so if someone else has some on deck, that'd be great I'm just saying, shock-based denial *would* be fair (not trying to excuse the writing, which was undoubtedly weak this season and there's a lot that didn't quite land as a result). I'm not sure he'd witnessed someone he loved do something THAT atrocious firsthand before.
He also genuinely struggles with the conflict between his loyalty to the Watch and his feelings for Ygritte. His gut reaction was to smile when he sees her aiming an arrow at him lol
I remember that differently, there was a scene where craster's guys roughed Jon up and Jon argued with the Commander and called Craster a Monster. I thought Jon found out about Craster on his own. Is there more to that?
Jon followed Craster into the woods and saw him dropping off a son for the White Walkers and got knocked out by Craster...when he confronts Jeor about it, he realizes from Jeor's reaction that he already knows and Mormont explains that the Watch needs men like Craster to help them survive beyond the wall, and that Craster "Serves crueler gods than you or I"
It’s a different situation imo. He did immediately protest it and never defended the actions of Craster, and actually immediately condemned them. Plus Mormont is removed from the vile act itself, he just didn’t back Jon in stopping it.
True. I'd have to think about it some more, I don't know if there's another situation. You could make the case he knew what Ygritte/The Wildlings did/would do to people and he loved her anyway, but he also refused to participate in it himself. Anyway, I was just thinking....I really wanna meet Balerion, Vhaegar, and Vermithor. Gimmie the Fire and Blood prequel series, HBO.