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Are you suggesting that Bran doesn’t actually have powers? Because his abilities being real is just about the only thing that is 100% confirmed in his story.

 

Having 56 tabs open in iOS Google Chrome is psychotic.

 

Her recounting those desperate calls to her family and how much panic and pain it caused her is just devastating to read.

 

Nah, not suggesting that. I just thought it was a funny thing to think about. I wish we knew where he warged to during the battle with the Night King though.

 

wow imagine if they had written this well enough that dany's turn didn't cause this reaction lol christ

 

I stopped having 56 tabs open. Now I send email notes to myself. It's...worse.

 

I did not like the way the writers ultimately ended up just basically saying 'Oh, you guys like Dany...? Well she is BAD and CRAZY and you are all WRONG and STUPID for liking her!' through dialogue. That was very heavy handed. It's not like she's Al Pacino in Scarface and we are all college kids with posters in our dorm. She was a better character than that whether they realized it or not.

 

I didn't like how they had plenty of evidence in the books and chose to not use it until two weeks ago.

 

Or if they had the decency to TELL HER so even if the writing was still dreadful she wouldn’t be knocked totally senseless by it at the last second. That whole quote is just way too sad.

 

One thing about Drogon's choice that I really wanna know now because of how much it means for past dragons...

1. Did he not kill Jon because Jon is a targ and Drogon knows it and knows deep down Jon loved her and can sense that emotion and feeling off of Jon?

or

2. Did he melt the chair because he was smart enough to know it's what drove his mom to do terrible things, including using him to do those terrible things, which means....dragons have a moral compass and know some difference of right and wrong. He still burns cities to the ground including women and children because it's what mom is asking him to do right now, but while he's doing it, he knows on some level it's not the right thing to do.

The 2nd option would be extremely fascinating and add a whole level to dragons and their existence, and makes me think about all the past dragons and how they must have felt during Aegon's conquest, or during the Dance of Dragons fighting their own brothers and sisters, etc. OR it could be Drogon picked up on what was right and wrong because Dany had been trying to do the right thing his whole life even though she struggled here and there. So many something like Balerion the Black Dread didn't have those some conflicting feelings while burning people because Aegon the Conqueror was more steely and not as concerned with doing the right thing as Dany was.

I really want to know lol

 

I just keep thinking back to all the times I called them out for having triumphant “dragons rule” hero music while she was violent and now they’re trying to make fun of the audience for viewing her that way instead of portraying those events as more grey from the start.

 

A dragon having a more complex and moral understanding of their entire civilization could be such a gamechanging and meaningful development for the universe OR a scathing indictment of humanity for failing to see what an incredibly simple beast was able to even in his moment of greatest pain, buuuuttttt I think they just wanted to make a big fire and have cool shots of the throne going bye bye.

 

Tbf, the first couple times she used them, the music was pretty foreboding...you got that bass drop and then the jaws-like dun duns

 

I was struggling with how to put this. It certainly seemed like they were knowingly and actively playing up that part of her character in earlier seasons, and certainly didn't mind capitalizing on her immense popularity during that time. To now just be like "nope, she's bad. you're dumb for not seeing that right along" is a disservice to the character, the audience and kinda to Emilia Clarke too.

I can sort of see where they would feel the need to be defiant and defensive with people circulating petitions like "Remake Episode 8 with Competent Writers" but I would also hope they would have slightly thicker skin.

 

Well, they ARE the people who said that Selmy’s actor calling and questioning his death or lack of importance to the story only made them want to kill him MORE.

 

Yeah it’s def not something this show would have explored even if they had more seasons, but I hope it gets addressed some day in the world

 

If to GRRM dragons are like nuclear weapons, then Drogon is what would happen if our Nukes were sentient. They'd be like GTFO with this shit i'm out of here.

 

I want this for you so much. A whole 1,000 page tome on the history of dragons written in the most dry way possible.

 

Shut up and take my money

 

The way they had the dragon burn the throne is very reminiscent of a lot of this season to me - as a plot point it is what it is, and there was probably a way to do it that worked for the audience and made sense, but the way they did it was so odd and raised so many more questions. If he were just 'raging' and shooting fire around but had chose to miss Jon for whatever reason but happened to hit the chair in his tantrum and melt it, that would make a little more sense. The way they did it he was shooting flames, had stopped, and then it looked like he really chose to specifically shoot the chair and melt it.

 

Ok just give me like ten to twenty years.

Still probably sooner than the next official book comes out. I’m so sorry.

 

That is so like him to not play along.

 

If the way these episodes played out had to be how the story went, I think it would have been better if:

• Jaime died fighting at Winterfell
• Cersei did more than just stare out a window
• Arya took out the NK but died in the process
• Dany's “turn” happened in the heat of battle and was at least slightly conceivably necessary strategically, although still brutal and cold-blooded
• Jon killed her in battle, mid-atrocity
• Drogon killed Jon afterwards before flying away with her body

The way they wrapped up the show just made it seem like Benioff & Weiss had 2 goals:

1. Remind everyone that Dany is BAD, kill her, and rub our noses in how stupid we were for liking her
2. Give everyone else a happy ending