it sort of half makes sense, like she blames on it the lords/bannermen at large not wanting to bend the knee because they just fought for themselves and have been independent for a year now or whatever. plus if its not gonna be dynastic anymore it won't be a stark king forever. but you can't do that AND have all the other kingdoms be totally fine with staying lol
I can see how my word choice came off condescending. I wasn't sure how else to word it, especially when it seemed like some would have preferred the horse to have been a warging Bran or something, which goes pretty far to miss what's happening in that scene IMO
The real truth is probably that D&D thought putting a really long scene with a horse out of nowhere would cause people to argue and make crazy theories for years despite it just being a horse that gives her some hope in a dark moment and they laughed for four hours and then put it in the script.
Thread has already moved on (lol), but my personal thoughts are that her big moment should have been the show's big moment, and the big ending of the series. The battle with the Night King should have taken precedent over the battle for the Throne because the threat of the white walkers is a mythical, once in a thousand years type deal that is bigger than everyone and everything going on in Westeros. I understand it would make less sense in the grand scheme of things though, but it would have been cool to have the battle at Kings Landing happen before fighting the Night King, with Cersei and Daenerys' lust for power blinding them to the bigger threat and decimating their armies, then The Night King comes in to take advantage of their weakness. Then it plays out the way it did, with Arya saving the day when everything seems lost etc etc, then everyone decides how to rebuild Westeros from there. They could still work the "power corrupts" angle because the distraction of the throne and the lure of power would almost lead to the demise of everybody in the whole land (rather than just the unlucky people of kings landing!). But I guess then it becomes to OTT/"Hollywood", and is less character-focused than the story we got!
funny tweet but also, the books are going to end more or less the same way and all the r/freefolk and r/asoiaf ppl are going to be so mad. like i'm sure it'll more fleshed out and somewhat more satisfying but whew are those folks setting themselves up for disappointment
i think the books could vary pretty wildly. im not banking on it by any means but what the fuck do any of us know?
I honestly think it could have been great, but it would have needed to play out 100% differently. I thought they were going with that thread since they focused sooooo much of the ep before on her seeing the carnage and all the children getting killed. I figured she rode back to Winterfell to inform Sansa what had happened and there would be another battle and she'd get in and kill her during all the chaos. But I agree, since Arya stayed with Bran Horse in Kings Landing, it would have not been good to have her do it.
What drives me a little crazy is that the final war with the white walkers didn't fundamentally change the dynamic of the final battle for the throne. Cersei never had to deal with the fallout of it, she was never going to cede power anyway and Dany was always going to be dead set on killing her. Dany's army still overtook King's Landing without any trouble. What experiences from the war with the Night King shaped the war for the Throne? It's like how if you took Civil War out of the MCU, Infinity War/Endgame wouldn't change much at all (that's a spicy take that I'm too cowardly to present to MCU fans)
What if the ending he told them was, “The 3ER planned the whole thing and wins the throne,” but because they already had Bran as the 3ER they were in deeeeeeep trouble. Lol.
I just can't see any situation where Arya killing Jon and then using his face to kill Dany would have felt earned or satisfying in any way.
But if the Avengers weren't divided they could have stood their ground better against Thanos and Tony kind of says all that in the beginning of Endgame when he gets back to earth.
Oh no I didn't say anything about her killing brother and using his face! Maybe kill Greyworm and use his?
I agree. I feel like the books could and probably should be wildly different from what we've seen , and I think that would be a good move for GRRM to do that. I also don't think we're ever getting any more books from him though, but I would like to be wrong on that for fans of the books.
As much as Dany's heel turn rubbed people the wrong way, I totally get Greyworm's and really don't consider it a turn at all. He's always been just a solider, a blank slate so to speak. Missandei was the only thing in his life that made him seem human, so of course he is raging out but also staying in character and just following orders.
My fruitless Media-related degrees loved this portion of the AV Club review: "As sincerely as I can muster, I want to thank everyone who’s been reading these reviews. There’s been talk that Game Of Thrones will be the last show that we watch this way, millions coming together to watch simultaneously and then react and discuss in real time, and there’s no doubt that the age of streaming is reshaping the way we consume television. But if Game Of Thrones has taught us nothing else, it’s that those of us who gathered here every week want experiences like this one, and value it in ways that I believe will overcome the barriers being created by shifts in distribution. There may never be anything quite like Game Of Thrones, but I choose to believe the instincts that brought us—whether as book readers or bookcurious viewers or indiscriminate content seekers—together will bring us together again in the future, whether around The Long Night or another spinoff or something else entirely. " Actually got more emotionally moved by that than anything in the finale itself. It really might be the last of its kind in terms of watching habits/communal viewing. I know for myself - and I spoke to my fiance about it last night - that when the show began I had such a close-knit group of friends and family who came over and watched every Sunday - and it was bittersweet to see how life outside the show has passed and fundamentally changed that dynamic of that reality. The official "last of the HBO sunday-funday parties" of my life if you will...
I have to assume Euron will be more prominent in the books since he’s more of a character and a threat there
Jon and Tyrion having a relationship could have/should have been built up so much more during these last two seasons with a few extra episodes in each season...not that their jail cell scene together wasn't good, but they didn't feel as "close" as I think the showrunners wanted you to feel they were specifically because they hadn't really had too many one on one interactions. The last one that I can remember is standing on the cliff brooding trying to figure out how to he could convince Dany to give Jon something he wants.