Agreed. Season 7 was garbage tbh. This was a large step up. Not as good as the best seasons. But some of the highs (and the filmmaking) were top tier.
I find it hard to believe all those soldiers at the bottom of that huge fucking staircase could hear Dany giving her speech.
Thoughts: -How did anyone find out Jon killed Dany? Her body flew away.... just throw something on the blood to cover it up.... -If Greyworm and crew are leaving, why does Jon still have to go to the wall? -Why does everyone keep calling him Bran the Broken now that he is king? Doesn't get any respect? The finale would have been better received if it was structured better to be included in the same episode with Dany attacking the city. Start the ep with the Attack on Kings Landing, save 30 mins for 15 mins of aftermath with Jon stabbing Dany and another 15 for closure. I bet everyone leaves much happier. Having a whole ep where it's resolved in the first 15 mins and then just characters bull shitting around for the rest is a strange structure for a finale of any kind.
For a minute I thought for sure that after Jon killed Dany that Jon would pull his face off and it would be Arya under there the whole time. Which would explain why Drogon kind of looked at him funny on his way up to the throne room. I thought he could sense it was actually Arya.
I could be wrong, but i don't think it has as much to do with grey worm as it does Bran appeasing those on the council who were/are still loyal to Dany (ie Yara). Grey Worm literally has no claim to anything and has no say in what happens to Jon, but I think Bran in all his Bran-ness assumed it would be a bad look to just pardon his brother who did just slay a Queen however justified he may have been.
It just seemed like him and his army were the ones keeping Jon prisoner and without them there, he would have just been welcomed back. But they kind of rushed it so bad, we didn't get the reaction to Dany burning down a whole city or people finding out Jon is the true king...I figured people overall weren't happy about it.
Shit, I think you guys are right. Forgot how faceswapping worked since they completely ditched it as a plot point this season!
Arya was my fav character so to hear that side of her story is forgotten in season 8 bums me out tbh. Her ending is nice though, and she literally saved the world so I cannot complain!
As an episode of TV, I thought it was pretty enjoyable. There were some cool shots, like when Dany was walking forward to speak and it looked real quick like she had dragon wings. As a finale to this series I thought it was very underwhelming and ultimately disappointing. For most of this season I had really thought the biggest problem was rushing the story and not giving screentime to the types of scenes that made this show great all through it's run. I still think that is part of the problem, and more episodes and screentime would have made these storylines play out and land more successfully. But now that it is all said and done it really seems to me like Benioff & Weiss had no idea what to do with the plot points that GRRM gave them. I think they were very good at adapting the story when they had the books to go on, but not so much when they forged ahead and attempted to tell their own story yet were effectively "anchored" to certain big story points they had received from GRRM. Things like Arya not really having much to do after killing The Night King yet always just being there hanging around, or Bran as the Three Eyed Raven felt very sloppy and half formed. And I ultimately despise the showrunners take on Daenarys' character and thought it was overly simplistic. I agree with the common critique that she probably have been handled much better as a character if literally ANY women had been involved in the writing of her character, but also even male writers who didn't just view her as "mad" and "crazy" and "the bad guy" cuz of her last name would have gone a long way toward giving her the type of character the actress who played her and so many other people really thought she deserved. I think the biggest shortcoming regarding this show's legacy going forward is going to be that *these* writers were the ones in charge of storylines featuring powerful and empowered women that really struck a chord with audiences all over the world, and they either didn't recognize and realize that or they really just didn't care to. Jon Snow having to kill Dany was bittersweet I suppose, but really otherwise all 4 of the Starks ended up in a nice place and almost got everything they wanted, Tyrion ended up in a nice place, Bron, Samwell - it was almost a comically happy ending for a lot of the main players, even if it was decidedly not for the still smouldering citizens of King's Landing. And as a silly technical nitpick - Cersei and Jaime were very clearly crushed by a MASSIVE amount of debris falling onto them, not about five small bricks. The way their deaths were shown, it would have taken a long time to find their bodies even with modern equipment, nevermind just one guy with his hands. I understand the why of it dramatically, but it completely and utterly contradicted what we had just seen before.
But still...once Dany was dead wgaff about Greyworm and any authority he has - especially in front of all of those leaders of the realm. Someone drop kick his ass and free the others to figure out what needs to be done and let the foreigner take a hike.
It did seem kind of silly, but I get why Bran felt the need to do it. And it's not as said as it could've been, given that there really doesn't seem to be much of a Night's Watch now, and Jon gets to go off with Ghost the wildlings, and that's where he always seemed to be happiest. You are correct. I'm kind of bummed they just kind of abandoned that whole concept once she killed the Freys, but maybe Martin will do more with it in the book.
Jaqen used faces of the living, right? Didn’t they kind of drop that rule for the show? Not that it mattered in the end of course.
One missing character I wish we could have seen: Meera. Even if we didn't get her reaction to Bran being the King of the 6 Kingdoms, having her there for the coronation of Sansa would have been nice. But I really would have liked to have her during the war for the dawn or, at least, at the end to say hi to Bran lol
Good point, the council scene with Tyrion/Davos/Bronn/Brienne is the closest we get to the feeling of warmth that comes with recognizing everything we went through was for a communal purpose, that lives are built on relationships more than status
I dunno but I would have loved for him to reveal himself to be the horse that saved Aria and also show him trying to Warg into Drogon when he said "I'll find him". So many wasted opportunities!
I’m so glad John killed Dany. She was going to end up being another tyrant. She let the power get to her head and she needed to be killed or else she would have ended up killing a lot more innocent people.