The first problem isn’t “plot armor” it’s just poor filmmaking. As for the second problem, honestly it just sounds like people are dissatisfied with the way the story went for certain characters more than “plot armor.” Like with Rhaegal, you said it yourself that his death could have happened at different points and still accomplished approximately the same thing in terms of the story. If that’s the case then why is the way it actually happened so bad? It still served a narrative purpose to happen that way, it just didn’t happen the way you would have preferred. I think your idea about Rhaegal dying at KL would have been better than what they did also, but that doesn’t mean what they did was bad in and of itself. And also I could just as easily say that if he had survived until King’s Landing that would also have been plot armor by your definition: he was kept alive just to be fridged for Daenerys. At the end of the day, if you and others think that the show is no longer following any sort of logic within the world then this is a conversation that’s just going to go in circles forever because I disagree with that idea entirely.
Whatever you want to call it, he’s being kept alive for plot purposes when he realistically should have stayed dead.
Call me stupid all you want, at least I have a coherent argument for my position. More than I’ve heard from you.
Again, I don’t think you’re understanding that no one has a problem with a character surviving because they have a future role to play. Don’t know how many times that can be stated, lol. Jon dying was something that made sense in the narrative and in the universe. The season didn’t start with him surviving his stab wounds, eating some soup, and then doing parkour the next day. He died. He stayed dead. The magic that exists in the story brought him back, and it was a huge shock to everyone. Whether or not it fulfilled a prophecy or whatever doesn’t matter, but it made sense within his story and the show. Something being a foregone conclusion or spoiled by the medium doesn’t really have anything to do with a show in universe. It’s just the knowledge that at the end of the day you are watching TV and there are certain general rules that apply. There was no reason to expect Jon to come back to life except for the fact that he is a cash cow for HBO. The story itself isn’t lessened by that knowledge, and the shock isn’t any less meaningful, it just isn’t as surprising by default because of what you know going into it.
I’m going out of town and coming back to make sure I don’t miss the chaos. It’s been a super fun ride on here.
I have MASSIVE issues with where the showrunners have taken this story. The Night King and The White Walkers play a MUCH larger role in the version of this story written by me. Everything I was hoping to see from this show was obliterated when Arya sunk her knife into the NK's abdomen and he exploded into icy shards. They have undercut some of the powerful female characters in ways they really should not have. They took a character - Euron Greyjoy - who should have been fantastic and interesting and apparently is on the page and turned him into an annoying joke, wasting a lot of hard work from a great actor in Pilou Asbæk. Jaime Lannister's arc would play out completely and utterly different if I were in charge. Even with all of that said though, I really feel like Benioff and Weiss were in a tough situation here. I would say the decision to try to finish the story in shorter seasons as opposed to handing it off to different writers / showrunners was the wrong move. So many people would have jumped at that opportunity - myself included. A petition to have this season remade is dumb and pointless though. The ratings have increased overall as this series has gone on, which is a pretty remarkable feat. The show has been a resounding success by almost most measures. Jon not petting Ghost goodbye was straight fucking LAZY though. No excuse for that shit.
Yeah i'll be flying all day that day but i already read the spoilers so im more excited to see how people react than actually watching it
Honestly we’re just talking past each other at this point. I’m going leave the thread for good anyway, sorry I didn’t explain myself better.
My entire watch of the show was worth it for this thread. We’ve covered so many topics! So many memes! So much Davos!
I’ve never felt so much anger and joy than I do in this thread. Wouldn’t trade it for anything! GO DAVOS!
I am very excited for Sunday's series finale. I have made sure that we are fully supplied with drinks and snacks at our household.
I do not have any food or drink planned. I’m a big mead drinker/collector so maybe that would be an appropriate choice for the night. Food wise I feel like something hearty would be good, but I don’t think I have enough time that day to cook much. Also seriously @Anthony_ , I don’t think anyone wants you to peace out. Especially so close to the end!
Seriously she's a warriorthe whole show then they embarrass her for being a virgin then she cries over a boy. Okayyyyy
I know I already said it, but I definitely don't. I can't really think of a show that mead would go better with to be honest.
I'm excited for the finale. This thread moves too fast for me to keep up during the ep, so I'll have to catch up on the craziness afterwards.