reading actor interviews is different behavior than reading into facial cues of press interviews on a red carpet in video format
Opening scene: Two hands bound together, close up. Slow pan out, you see Tyrion with a noose around his neck. Quick cut to Dany cutting the rope with a Valerian dagger. No dialogue spoken. Tyrion hangs for his crimes for setting Jaime free with all in silence as his body slowly drifts back and forth on the line. My hope for this Sunday.
That would literally burn the internet down lol I think there is a danger he gets got tho....Dany not gonna be happy with him. Just not sure if she lives long enough to do anything about it.
Since the characters have all had so much plot armor the last few seasons before last Sunday, I'm fine with Dany just offing a lot of our favorites before she gets hers.
I don't want to hear 'plot armor' or 'subverting expectations' ever again, hahaha Literally every single show has some form of plot armor. Every single character on GoT should have been dead multiple times over, even in the widely accepted "best" seasons however many years ago. Shows exist with characters who overcome unrealistic events over and over and over again. If you can't suspend your disbelief of that now, especially after doing it dozens of times over the past decade, then I don't know what to tell you. Not calling you out specifically @Davjs , we're cool, haha, it just reminded me of the people who lean on that way too hard.
Haha it's all good. I never really used it before but man this show really did add that term to my vocabulary. After watching the Night King battle or the ep where they go to retrieve the white walker to show Cerise, how can you not though? Just saying I'm ready to just have them go crazy in this last episode to make up for all the fan favorites making it through impossible situations and being saved last minute from behind non stop lol
Since D & D love big TV moments and last-minute saves, it would be this but Bronn would break the noose with his bow and arrow because Tyrion still owes him Highgarden.
I see what you're saying but I could point to 100 interactions since the series began where a character should have died but didn't. Because it's a TV show. Not real life, lol
There’s definitely a difference between characters surviving because they have a major role to play (which is fine, if sometimes clumsily handled) and a character surviving completely arbitrarily only to die completely arbitrarily later simply because it’s the end now. Or someone like Bronn who has fulfilled everything they need to do within the story but is kept around because the fans like him. It all comes down to the execution, just like with the rest of it.
It's pretty shocking to me that this is where we're at with this show, one of the major hallmarks of which was at one point the idea that actions and events have consequences and no one comes to save anybody at the last minute. It doesn't mean no one can ever make out of a dangerous situation but surely its undeniable that this show was defined in the early years by consequences being unavoidable. I understand how annoying it is to harp on these things, but seriously. Characters were completely overtaken by a wave of thousands of zombies and then got up and kept fighting lol. It's not necessarily a bad thing but its definitely a change.
lmao....show ends, credits end, all of a sudden we see Tyrion sitting at a desk writing letters, Bronn walks in stomps up to Tyrion and smashes him the nose, Tyrion asks what's that for and Bronn says THAT'S what a broken nose sounds like. Edit-I misread the original post but whatever I like my ending now
There’s also the completely bizarre repopulating armies thing. The Unsullied clearly have mastered mitosis and have taught the Dothraki their ways.
My main point with the 'plot armor' and 'subverting expectations' thing was directed at people not on this board, to be clear. The ones who read those terms on reddit or twitter and think they're an 'abracadabra' that turns them into an astute critic or some shit. I know I should ignore them but sometimes it's tough, haha
Without a doubt, there was a ruthlessness that GRRM has that D & D do not and I think that shows. That's not to undercut what the latter did in GoT's early seasosn, but, I'm going to add a clunky NBA trope in here, they don't have that killer instinct later on. They want to please people.
My apologies to Dinosaurs Dish in advance lol. I tried to think of a different term but plot armor fits too well! Plot armor can be annoying and appropriately complained of when we're pushed to believe no really this time how can this character make it out and then they make it out in a ridiculous way or in a way that doesn't make any sense. Like Arya getting stabbed multiple times by the waif and not only living but being able to run and fall down stairs and still fight and win. Jon Snow being saved by Dragon airlines AND stupidly fighting with zombies instead of joining everyone else and missing the flight but still being saved by his half-dead uncle is annoying plot armor. I'd much rather the story be written in a way that just doesn't put the characters in such overwhelming peril than have them just keep trying to trick us into thinking a character will die only to have them be saved in eye rolling ways. Not every show relies on this trope so I don't see why we can't be annoyed by it. This show I feel plot armor can be particularly glaring because for so long the show was notorious for seemingly not giving anyone plot armor, and if the character's choices and situation called for their death they got it. .
I just can't see how using plot armor as a criticism now makes sense when the whole series is riddled with times they should have died but didn't.
For me its only certain times when the solution to the peril they are in feels overly contrived. Most situations, even Jon coming back from the dead, didn't bother me at all because you can see the logical way they were saved. At least the pieces add up. I don't think the tide turning at the battle of the bastards, for example, is a poor use of plot armor. We thought and were hoping Sansa's influence and the Vale would come into play and it did, even if it was in the nick of time.