Game of Thrones (HBO) TV Show • Page 540

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by airik625, Mar 9, 2016.

  1. Anthony_

    A (Cancelled) Dork Prestigious

    The next day she was pissed off and hanging on to her self-control by a thread. And she was bloodthirsty for revenge. She'd thrown caution to the wind because of Missandei and Jon and Tyrion and Varys. Totally different circumstance.
     
  2. David87

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    I took this as him trying to put his emotional armor back on, a defense mechanism that he retreated back into with ease after having broken out of it the last season or so.
     
  3. Brother Beck

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    Better writing in your last handful of posts than in this last season of the show...
     
  4. Anthony_

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    Also did Jaime become the Kingslayer to "defend the innocent" or did he do it to gain power for his family/because his father told him to.
     
  5. David87

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    I'd also point out that Drogon was almost on NK/Viserion attacking the wall levels last night. The initial swoop by the wall with Viserion was literally the fastest we had ever seen a dragon fly, Dany and Drogon have always moved a bit slower than that, but it was clear last night that she was pushing the limits on how fast she was willing to go with him.
     
  6. Ken

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    I see what you're saying. I think it boils down to Drogon being the strongest Dragon and also having witnessed how his siblings died. He's dodged multiple attacks before and the way she flew in this episode was completely different than the way they were flying when they were ambushed. Everything is definitely rushed, so that does not help, but I just don't buy that Dany having a plan to attack/different approach/more experience didn't pay off. They clearly illustrated that she attacked strategically and it worked really well. She flew in high and used the sun to aid in her approach, then stayed low weaving in and out of ships, forcing them to turn their scorpions a lot, which were not easy to turn. She stayed low on the run up to KL forcing them to take difficult shots and limiting the time they had to aim. I just don't get the criticism.
     
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  7. Victor Eremita

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    She had a chance to save Missandei and she was watching her people get f'd up by Euron and did nothing, when she could have apparently easily saved them all. That would be better reasoning for charging straight in than waiting a day and stewing on it, but to each their own.
     
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  8. David87

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    I think it was more the order to bring him his father's head. I think Jaime just watching the Mad King go mad and give mad orders to burn them all MIGHT have sent him over the edge, but that + being ordered to go bring Aerys Tywin's head was enough for him to go "aw HELL nah"
     
  9. [removed]

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    I would buy this explanation if she didn’t nose dive towards the ships screaming while dodging shots left and right.
     
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  10. Anthony_

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    But he also had to know Tywin had switched sides and what the plan was. Idk I always thought that all those stories/excuses Jaime told about why it was honorable to kill Aerys was just him rationalizing it to himself.
     
  11. Retired_BT

    Always do the right thing. Supporter

    There should have been a cleverer option for Dany this week than “doing the same thing as before but it works this time” and letting fans do the heavy lifting for why it worked in this circumstance and wasn’t feasible before
     
  12. EASheartsVinyl

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    Even that could have been an absolutely devastating moment of realizing how little he values himself, but it’s delivered as if that’s just objectively true and he really never cared. I feel like something got skipped in his story to make him so totally dejected and depressed and it hurt the whole thing. I’m super glad they didn’t fridge Brienne for the sake of this plot, but some type of catalyst is missing internally for his downfall.
     
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  13. what’s the spoiler here
     
  14. David87

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    I don't think we know that Jaime knows this. The only way he would have is if her overheard Varys telling Aerys not to trust Tywin, and of course that would mean believing Varys at the time.
     
  15. Anthony_

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    I took Sansa's comments last week about regretting not being there when they kill Cersei as the catalyst.
     
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  16. CarpetElf

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    He is Martins least favorite character too.

    She was killed by her own stubbornness and arrogance in the basement of the place she spent eight seasons climbing to the top of.
     
  17. Anthony_

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    I'm just speculating of course, I just assume Tywin would have wanted to loop Jaime in. Plus the reason why Aerys asked for Tywin's head was because he knew Tywin had joined Robert, and Tywin was his hand, wasn't it? Idk, like I said it's just me speculating at the end of the day.
     
  18. David87

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    From what I remember, Aerys pretty much kept Jaime at his side at all times, so I don't think there was a way for Tywin to get word to Jaime himself. I gotta go back and read the part about bringing him Tywin's head. He either said that as a "if your father betrays me, bring me his head", or it was right as Aerys was going full Mad King and giving the order to burn them all. I think it was the latter.
     
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  19. Anthony_

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    Plus the only accounts we have of that moment are biased anyway, so it's hard to know what really happened.
     
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  20. at least attack in the middle of the fucking night with an almost all black dragon and not just nose dive in broad daylight again uuuuugh
     
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  21. wordzanddreamz

    and a millions screams...

    Also there is the whole "We will die together as we were born together". Clutched in a confined spaced (a la the womb).

    But you know... we can definitely just minimize it to "killed by some rocks".
     
  22. CarpetElf

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    Yeah but the last time they did that everyone complained about not being able to see
     
  23. Anthony_

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    Yeah I mean if anything the symbolism of how they died was too fitting/overt/on-the-nose lol
     
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  24. Argus

    Of sugar and ice I am made

    I'm not sure why the show even bothered with the Golden Company bit. When they first mentioned Cersei hiring them last season, it was to make it seem like the odds weren't so dramatically against her. 20,000 sellswords at her beck and call! But then this season they hardly mentioned them at all when strategizing, despite the fact that they would've outnumbered Dany's army before the Battle of Winterfell. Then when we finally see them, there's definitely not nearly as many as they promised. I'm sure part of that is due to budgetary constraints, but why even bother with them at all? The narrative this season has been about Cersei being outnumbered (even though it definitely looked like most of Dany's army got killed at Winterfell...), so couldn't they just have stuck a few of the Lannister men outside instead?
     
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  25. Yeah but maybe I wanna be passive aggressively subtweeted on the directors instagam telling me I don’t know how to calibrate my own tv
     
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