Game of Thrones (HBO) TV Show • Page 492

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by airik625, Mar 9, 2016.

  1. That face says “this is too easy,” and killing Rhaegal was. Established canon was thrown out the window to allow Thrones’ deus ex pirate to put his thumb on the scales and even out the power imbalance between Daenerys and Cersei. He’s a cartoon villain who is somehow always in the right place at the right time to do exactly as the plot demands. No character is a better embodiment of Thrones’ late-season pacing and plot failings than Euron.
     
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  2. Dinosaurs Dish

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    I don't think this show is free from criticism, it's clearly full of issues, but what canon was broken by killing Rhaegal like that? I don't get why people keep saying that.
     
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  3. Ep4 was definitely my least favorite of the season so far, but I still enjoyed a lot of it, particularly on the front end. The strategy, or lack thereof, at the end frustrated me. It was cool to see the scorpions tear apart ships, though.
     
  4. did you read the article I linked?

    To be fair, Thrones had been setting up Rhaegal’s death. Viserion died thanks to the Night King’s javelin toss, and even Bronn showed that, on the show, a scorpion bolt could pierce a dragon’s scales when he hit Drogon during the Loot Train Attack. But this was the most egregious violation of the canon: Euron’s aim can’t be explained away by magic like the Night King’s can, and Bronn missed a shot from a stationary platform in addition to the one, nonlethal bolt that found its target.

    Rhaegal’s death seemed symbolic of this season as a whole. In the service of speeding along the plot, the show has disregarded the magic and fantasy elements of the story. The Night King was killed in an evening, Bran has been sidelined, Jon abandoned Ghost, and Rhaegal fell from the sky. Euron could have been a worthy Thrones villain, but the show turned him into little more than a plot device, there to take the script from Point A to Point B as quickly as his fleet teleports across Westeros.
     
  5. Dinosaurs Dish

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    I didn't realize that quote was from that previous article, but even reading this explanation, it's easily explained: Euron is a better shot than Bronn, I don't get why that is an issue. Isn't it known that Euron and his family are the best of the best archers?
     
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  6. Dinosaurs Dish

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    Like, going after character motivation, poor direction and cinematography, etc... I can get all of that. But saying that a character killed a mythical flying beast is outside of the shows' canon, especially when we know that's one of the ways to kill them, is just people grasping at straws.

    It feels like people are hate-watching the show at this point and are taking something that would be best described as a nitpick and blowing it out of proportion for likes and retweets, tbh
     
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  7. Anthony_

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    Call it convenience, call it a deus ex machina or a lucky shot or whatever, but one thing it 100% is not is a "violation of canon." That makes no sense.
     
  8. Davjs

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    My complaint isn't Euron landing three hits on a flying dragon (even though it's ehhhh), it's more how did Dani not see them coming....it was a whole fleet of ships in open water. Not just a few hiding out somewhere.
     
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  9. I was fine with Euron noscoping a dragon.

    Would’ve preferred dragonbinder tho :devil:
     
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  10. Ken

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    I don't even fully understand the complaint that Daenarys didn't see the ships in open water. He knew they were coming and positioned all of his ships with the intent that they target the dragons or fleet as soon as they became visible. They waited and when she turned the corner, he got the first shots off and it worked. The ships were clearly positioned to surprise Daenerys. She was careless and it cost her.
     
  11. Anthony_

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    bUt HoW dId He ShOoT tHrOuGh ThE mOuNtAiN
     
  12. Dinosaurs Dish

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    Wait, wait, wait... how do we know these people even know how to shoot a large arrow?
     
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  13. Anthony_

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    Uh, they never show us Euron learning how to operate the Scorpion, how does he know how to use it, that's a clear plothole right there you guys,,,,
     
  14. Crazy to think Dany came to Westeros with a full Dothraki army and 3 dragons, and now she's down to 1 dragon and her Dothraki army is pretty much all wiped out. I'd be surprised if she shows restraint now. This has to be on Tyrion, right? Dude has fallen off hard as an adviser.
     
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  15. Anthony_

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    Plot twist: Tyrion was working for Cersei all along and infiltrated Daenerys' court in order to betray her at the last second
     
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  16. Ken

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    I think it's her fault. She's the one who insisted on pushing to King's Landing without even bothering to rest her troops.
     
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  17. Ken

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    I miss Tywin. He would have made this happen.
     
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  18. Anthony_

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    For real. Sansa tried to warn her. This is all on her and her impatience to sit the throne before word about Jon gets out.
     
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  19. I'm trying to remember that meeting and how many people advised against it. I think Sansa suggested they rest their troops?
     
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  20. David87

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    haha.....though I do think he promised Cersei her baby would be named heir if/when Dany dies childless, which Dany would definitely consider a "betrayal" IMO
     
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  21. Anthony_

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    If that's the case, though, the promise was probably made with in return for Cersei promising to send her army to help fight the Night King, which didn't happen lol. Additionally, it's not really a promise that he can keep anymore now that Jon has the stronger claim to the throne.
     
  22. skoopy

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    For real. At this point Charles Dance's voice through a megaphone could win the war against these fools.
     
  23. David87

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    True. But if Dany finds out about it later, that would make me worried for Tyrion. She found out about Jorah long after the fact and still exiled him. She likes Tyrion a LOT less lol

    That was my first thoughts in Episode 1 when Bran was giving Tyrion the hard stare.
     
  24. EASheartsVinyl

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    Tyrion secretly being a traitor the WHOLE time would make so many people angry, but at least it would help explain why he’s held the idiot ball so much lately for no reason whatsoever.
     
  25. It still feels weird that we could potentially be seeing numerous characters that have been here since the beginning die next week