I agree, them hooking up felt very lazy to me. Surely they'll have more time together, but I never looked at them in any kind of romantic way.
There are quite a few characters that this applies to. Bronn especially is a super confusing presence outside of being enjoyed by fans. It hurts more to see it happen to Missandei because so much of her story has always been about Dany instead of her own motivations/hopes, and she didn’t get time to explore what she really wanted outside of a scene or two. The fact that her death was in this specific context where it’s almost a fridging doesn’t help that incomplete feeling either.
I mean, once they got to Westeros, it was kind of a given that she'd be pushed to the side a bit as Dany gained more "noble" advisers who knew the country better than Missandei did. She wasn't going to be as valuable an adviser considering she kne less of Westeros than anyone else in Dany's orbit save Grey Worm. That being said, she still had a few big scenes in Season 7 when it came to bridging the gap between Jon and Dany and such. And of course her cute love affair with Grey Worm.
Me personally, I wasn't referring to Jaime and Brienne hooking up but what happened after with him taking off .
I thought the romance happened pretty organically TBH, starting with her teaching Grey Worm how to read/speak the common tongue.
I watched the whole series a few months ago and maybe using 'never' in my post was too hyperbolic but anything romantic between them did not feel like it was teetering on the edge of them hooking up while drunk like this.
I don't think it came out of nowhere but I definitely enjoyed the 'warriors who respect each other' dynamic much more.
Well I mean we all know the show is the absolute worst at writing sex scenes well or organically, but their relationship taking this turn is up there with the most foreshadowed and earned plots this season. His love for Brienne and confusion about how to navigate that and her issues with feeling something personal instead of professional is most of their story at this point.
Are there specific quotes that people are pointing to that illustrated that? Because it (being hyperbolic) always felt like mutual honor/respect/friendship and not something romantic to me. I know they love each other, that is clear, but I felt their love was platonic.
yeah that's the part that really did it for me. I'm also surprised to see that other people got a completely different take away from that convo than I did. I read the scene as Jaimie finding out about Cersei killing the dragon, destroying the fleet, and basically getting the upper hand right now and abandoning dany (and brienne) to be by her side for the battle and the aftermath and that's why she was crying so much and he said he was a shitty person
Oh man, yeah. Like so many. I’ll see if I can find something that goes over them all. There are big things like the entire subtext of Jaime giving his sword/heart to her and then refusing to take it back, and tiny little moments like Jaime horribly attempting to flirt by asking if she’s sure they aren’t related because he is the least smooth man in the world. Apparently the books are even more explicit about it.
I think Jaime understands that now Daenerys is going to show no mercy and he wants to try and make sure Cersei isn't killed (she's carrying his baby). I don't think he's switching sides all of a sudden, he just cares about her still, despite everything she's done, and doesn't want her to die. And Brienne is upset because she loves him and doesn't want him to throw his own life away to save Cersei's (Brienne also doesn't know that Jaime has the extra motivation of Cersei being pregnant with his child, of course). Also that line about being hateful sounded more like one of those cliché moments where one half of a romantic partnership tries to say the meanest possible thing to the other half in order to make it easier for them to let go of the relationship.
Okay, if it's more explicit in the books then that makes sense because I haven't read them, but little hints like that what you just referred to or even their time in the spa bath thing... idk, those aren't that romantic to me. Like, having a platonic friend, even one someone has had a one night thing with, is still a thing and I never got the vibe that that kind of love it was bubbling under the surface and going to eventually lead to something.
it went from like, one night stand/fling to quasi-implying that they were like in a relationship now which was probably the weirder jump for that relationship.
Oh yeah the execution has been an absolute mess. It’s the same way I felt about Arya/Gendry. The end result of these people being together is justified by earlier moments, but why are they going about it in such a bizarre way??
Agreed with @Sean Murphy and his statement above, but this scene in particular, see I still read that as mutual admiration and respect for what they've both been through, what each others' companionship and friendship means, loyalty, etc... Like, I could totally see myself being as earnest and loving with one of my best friends, but I guess I could see other people who would think there was something romantic between us when there truly isn't. Although, I do believe people can be "platonically" in love with each other, so maybe that explains this whole hullabaloo, haha.
When Varys began to approach Tyrion when they were discussing treason, I though for sure he was going to kill Tyrion.
That scene with Tyrion and Varys was easily my favorite scene of the season so far. I actually thought that Daenerys was going to walk in on them, hear Varys talking about betraying her, and kill him.
i need to re-watch that scene (and episode as a whole) but was Varys implying Tyrion (or someone close) should just kill Dany and be done with it all? That is the vibe I got.