The entire endgame of Thrones would have been better served with the two final seasons racking in at 10 episodes each. Wouldn't even mind if the battle at Winterfell somehow took place as the Season 7 series finale or the premiere of Season 8
I literally don't know anything about the behind-the-scenes making of this show, but to my mind it doesn't seem very far fetched that that decision came from on high and the Benioff and Weiss saying that is a little bit of spin / good PR on their part... I could be dead wrong and everyone is just burnt out. That is kind of lame though and if that is the case I would say maybe step back and let others who still have the passion take over .
I feel very torn about whether or not MORE time would have actually made for a better show given what the writers have done so far, but they certainly could have reordered a lot of it within the same timeframe and had very different stakes.
It does seem a little odd to me that writers who had no problem stretching some storylines out for a veeeeeeeerrrrrrry long time get to the endgame and decide that doing things quick and concise is the best way simply from a creative and storytelling perspective and no other reason. A little bit like if GRRM said "I know everyone wants to hear how this ends" and finished the whole series up with one 200-page book. This is obviously a very extreme example and not exactly what I think is going on here, just trying to explain what I was saying .
just read that allegedly the showrunners always wanted to keep the series around 70-75 episodes so they're pretty much on the mark. and apparently Martin stopped writing episodes when they cut out Lady Stoneheart who was his favorite or some shit and he thought there could be 11-12 season. hmm.
I’m trying to find any articles about the number of episodes but everything is flooded with other stories right now. I’d be surprised if HBO was the one wanting less of it, but you could be right that they’re spinning it. The team seems to be pretty blunt about their motives usually though.
i was trying to search as well and then saw some link headers as "FINALE LEAKED. YOU WON'T BELIEVE IT!" and murmured "fuck fuck fuck" while quickly clicking my browser closed while not looking at the screen
Again, I think some of this stuff is putting a good spin on things and PR and the like, but if that 70-75 episode number thing is true then I do think they spent a lot of time bogged down and doing some serious wheel-spinning and are now oddly rushing through the very good part .
Found this after some digging, way back in 2016. These quotes definitely make it seem like HBO wanted to go for as long as possible but D&D didn’t. Game of Thrones’ final Two seasons could be much shorter than 10 episodes
The series is a huge ratings monster but the longer it goes on usually actors and other people s contracts that you may have gotten a good deal on 10 years ago go up and up over time, and simply what is happening in the episodes themselves keeps getting more elaborate and expensive and hard from a production standpoint.
I've enjoyed every episode so far, this one included. Though it does kind of feel like it could have been two separate episodes. In one way, it kind of works to make Dany's decisions seem even more rushed an irresponsible. But on the other hand, I kind of wanted them to really focus on the devastation of the battle more.
Love people being vague as hell on purpose to get attention. If you're gonna post a severe critique of something, come out and say it. This isn't facebook where people post how awful their day is and then tell people not to ask. Edit: This came off much more mean than I intended, that kind of vague-posting just irks me.
I enjoyed the episode a lot but if the writers are doing what I am afraid they are doing with Jaime it is very dumb and they definitely ruined his character quickly. Still hoping I am wrong about that. It did feel like very jarring jumps around Euron's ambush & them washing up on shore / back at Kings landing with the prisoner / ervryone at Kings landing but I understand how and why.
I was expecting them to kick her off the wall and I was afraid we'd see her fall to her death. I don't know if what we got was any easier to watch. Narratively that death felt entirely unearned to me. She should've gotten to do so much more before going out like that. Feels like all she's done the past two seasons is longingly stare at Greyworm.
i figured it was obvious i was talking about jaime, but okay, sure. the short little fling with brienne came off as lazy and cruel. what purpose did that serve besides to hurt brienne? jaime could have bounced back to KL without doing all of that.
Agreed that i expected mountain to like pick her up and throw her off the wall. I dont know of i necessarily agree with all the talk of certain things being “earned” or “unearned”, but she has been such a great character and a necessity to dany for so long that, it’s almost fitting that this of all things is what drives dany over the edge. Like you could see in tyrions face he knows theres no going back now.
Missandei single-handedly helped turn Greyworm from a robotic killing machine to a human being capable of love
Yeah, early on she'd done a lot, but aside from her fling with an unsullied, it's like recently they had no idea what to do with her so they just kept her around to kill her as a plot device to motivate Dany.
I thought that whole sequence was amazing watching Tyrion try his hardest and play the last and only cards he had left while it all went to shit. I was much more emotionally affavted by her death than I thought I was going to be, especially since I knew as well as she did there was no way she was getting out of there alive .
Yeah, and that's great, but how many words has she spoken in the last two seasons? Nathalie was underutilized imo.