So the Iron Bank definitely sent the Golden Company as a Trojan Horse to betray Cersei right? I’ve been thinking that probably has to happen.
Why adwd so high? Not to be rude, I’ve just never seen someone rank it so high before 3, 1, 2, 5, 4 for me
Davos is one of my favorite characters in both the books and the show. He’s so great. I feel like I’m constantly explaining to people why I love him so much.
Game of Thrones’ Battle of Winterfell was less deadly than expected. Good. But if Game of Thrones ended with the battle against the Night King, it would, in essence, be saying that once you win the right to keep existing, that’s it. The conflict is over. You have found an uneasy peace, and you can finally embrace it. This is more or less what happens in J.R.R. Tolkien’s The Lord of the Rings, the work that George R.R. Martin’s A Song of Ice and Fire novels are most directly in conversation with. Various factions pause their fighting to unite behind Aragorn’s desperate quest to destroy Sauron, and then once Aragorn succeeds, everybody’s cool with him taking the throne.
Jon in ADWD is desperately missed in this show. The showrunners are cowards who will only be edgy of its gore, nudity, or a minor character.
Are we done bitching about lighting yet? I stopped reading around pg 412 because we literally had 2/3 of all the posts on every page from like 390-412 all about the episodes being dark. Good lord that was exhausting. Anyway, I've skipped way ahead in this thread so I apologize if I'm rehashing anything already discussed. 1) This episode made me very curious about the future of Varys. Mel told him he'd die in Westeros and I fully expected it to come in this episode. Since he didn't, does he have a more meaningful death coming later? I feel he's barely been involved as of late. 2) Everything involving Mel in this episode was great, as I was hoping she'd be back before the battle. Lighting the Dothraki swords got me so pumped, and then lighting the trenches, seeing her faith start to waiver but her still not giving up... I loved it. We've seen her do some awful things in this show, but her redemption was really well executed. Her short discussing with Davos was very well done. And then her ending was perfect. She's served her purpose, and it was her time to go. I can't think of a better ending for her story. 3) I'm still screaming about Arya killing the NK. Our house went into pure chaos when that happened. My fiancee and I both screamed OH FUCK at the top of our lungs, followed by us actually pausing the show, running around the house screaming, waking up our German Shepherd (named Arya) and giving her rubs, treats, and telling her what a good girl she is, screaming some more, running around some more, and then finally about 15 minutes later we unpaused and finished the episode. It was amazing. 4) The Dothraki attack scene was so disheartening. It gave me one of the most dreadful feelings I've ever had in this show. What a well done scene. The look on Jaime's face watching it happen, after he'd just been raving about them being the best fighters he's ever seen a few episodes back, shook me. It also sucked watching the Unsullied just get obliterated. But... its what I fully expected to happen. Its been obvious for awhile that Dany wasnt going to be taking the 7K with the Dothraki and Unsullied. Too much attention was paid to her "army of savages" by the white folks of Westeros. Now, I think her or Jon, or her and Jon, or whatever, will be able to rally an army of the people against Cersei. And we'll get this beautiful reversal where Cersei is defending her throne with a foreign force against her own people. Beyond that, my mind is still too fucked to talk about much more. I'm about to start a rewatch of the episode and plan to be back to talk more afterwards.
He is the best part of that book and they fucked him up so bad he’s almost a totally different character lol
No, he’s actually both way more likeable and also way more an asshole in the books. He’s a lot smarter and more cunning (and more of a tactician than a swordsman) in the books and they cut out most of his more morally dubious actions and totally change the buildup to his death to make him more sympathetic
Carpet elf is right, it would be a little bit jarring to see the hero doing some of the things on screen he does in the book. Still think they fucked him up tho