Game of Thrones (HBO) TV Show • Page 383

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by airik625, Mar 9, 2016.

  1. EASheartsVinyl

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    Yeeeaaaahhhhh, the revenge porn aspects of her story and the way the fans all jump on board is exactly what I’m talking about having issues with.
     
  2. airik625

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    Doesn’t Jon give a demonstration of him showing how to kill one - with Dragonglass or fire right?
     
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  3. Mick

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    We both know what the solution to that is then. The violence across the board is a pretty core element to this show. Not really sure what to tell you other than that.
     
  4. EASheartsVinyl

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    “Violence begets violence” and understanding that these aren’t things to be celebrated is a huge part of the series.
     
  5. Cameron

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    Sadly I think the obvious deaths are certainly happening. Brianne, Pod, Daavos, and Jora.

    I also think one major character will go. I’m hoping not Tyrion, but I think they may throw a curveball.
     
  6. EASheartsVinyl

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    Davos being alive but seeing more destruction of innocent people and loss would almost be more heartbreaking than him dying in battle. He’s such a survivor and he’s seen so much. That poor girl almost did him in and nothing even happened yet.
     
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  7. Cameron

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    True. He’ll probably see that little girl die
     
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  8. Mick Apr 22, 2019
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    I disagree a thousand percent. I think Game of Thrones as a whole, both books and the show, make it clear that this world is filled with violence and it's impossible to survive or progress without utilizing it to some extent. Ned Stark is arguably the character whose credo comes closest to "violence begets violence," and look how things turned out for him. (Not to mention that he did plenty of violent things himself.) The world of Game of Thrones is about realizing that there will always be violence and that the most successful leaders are able to find a middle ground of when to flex your muscles and when to show restraint. That's been a core aspect to Dany's entire story: how to balance being a ruler versus being a conquerer. The Hound spells all of this out early in the show when he tells Arya that everyone she has ever known has been a killer, and it's true. Dany can't break the wheel without being violent. Cersei can't keep the throne without being violent. Jon Snow can't do the honorable thing without sometimes being violent. Davos and Brienne are perhaps the most honor-bound characters in the entire show right now and both of them have used violence to both survive and further the causes they believe in. Game of Thrones is literally the antithesis to the notion that "violence begets violence."

    Edit: Game of Thrones itself is a great example of "violence begets violence" in the sense that nearly everything in this show is progressed by or because of violence. But the notion of "violence begets violence" and thus we shouldn't be violent is what I think the show is the antithesis is. Just to clarify. I took your post as the anti-violence message of the phrase itself.
     
  9. David87

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    I don't think Davos is dying. I think he's making it until the end.
     
  10. EASheartsVinyl

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    It’s always hard to guess what is foreshadowing or red herrings or throwaway lines or future irony, but he has had so many lines about always making it out that I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he’s one of the few left.
     
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  11. EASheartsVinyl

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    Someone made a compilation of GOT characters as Vines and I’m so ashamed of how deeply I love it.
     
  12. Taketimeandfind

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    My death picks for next week are Theon, Jorah, Beric, Tormund, Edd, Missandei, and Grey Worm.

    Maybe replace Grey Worm or Jorah with Davos.

    The only problem I have with Grey Worm dying is who commands whatever is left of the Unsullied.

    And where the hell are the Dothraki
     
  13. Mrk_Brdshw

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    Yeah in front of Cersei and crew, I think he cuts the hand off, burns it, and also kills the main body of the wight with dragonglass.

    Not sure what the rules are but I would guess The Night King can’t re-revive a wight that’s been hit with dragonglass, but I honestly have no idea.
     
  14. The NK will command whatever is left of them. I think they’re toast. At this point, if Dany wins the Throne I think she does it with a Westerosi army.

    I thought this as well. I’d imagine feverishly making winter clothing.
     
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  15. David87

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    GUys.....I can't get enough of the Jenny of Oldstones song
     
  16. In the scene where the group was starting to congregate, when Davos first walked in and someone asked him what he was doing, I really expected him to say “walking to go take a shit” as a throwback to pre-BotB
     
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  17. theagentcoma

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    People forget that the books were a huge tonal shift for the fantasy genre overall when they came out. Martin's use of gritty realism, moral ambiguity, and grey characters were pretty revolutionary at the time. He eschewed high magic and the plot device of "a farm boy raised in a quiet village with dormant powers that will help rid the world of a dark evil" for political intrigue and drew from the War of the Roses in many ways, including his inspiration for the Red Wedding.

    I don't see it so much as "violence begets violence" for the sake of it. I see it as an important stylistic shift in a genre that had grown stale with cliches, written nearly 30 years ago. I know the show and the book are two different entities and mediums and D&D are the writers now, but I think the history of the books is important to keep in mind. And here we are in 2019 watching it all come to an end!
     
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  18. David87

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    I am preparing myself for the fan that puts Jenny's Song over clips of this week's episode.


    And for whichever insane person does the same for Endgame.
     
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  19. David87

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    One moment we still haven't seen from the trailer: Drogon looking down on someone, in the dark, about to unleash his fire
     
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    Omg
     
  22. EASheartsVinyl

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    Yeah that’s all definitely fair. From what I know about the books (and where the show has hinted in and out) is that they’re about the horror and reality of war and that there aren’t really true “good” guys because it’s all about your perspective on what happens, and no matter what the “wheel” of war and conquest and fighting over power just keeps going and hurting more people over and over again. The whole monarchy at this point is just totally futile and useless in the face of an existential threat that came about because of ancient violence in and of itself.

    There’s also a ton about the horrors of violence on children and innocents and how that world is endlessly cruel to them and shapes them, which is what I was talking about in the first place. Watching Arya take such horrific steps in the name of (ultimately useless and unfulfilling) revenge shouldn’t be something that inspires joy and makes you wonder, “Oh wow! What will that wacky kid do next!”
     
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  23. Cameron

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  24. EASheartsVinyl

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    Oh lol I had no idea what that was and assumed it was a quick vid to watch before work. That runtime was a shock.
     
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  25. Mick

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    I'd say that Arya's revenge was certaintly fulFILLing for at least one person
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