A dream of spring. I imagine it’ll either be that or a time for wolves, which was the final book title when it was planned as a trilogy
The Winds of Winter was an episode title iirc so i imagine a Time for Wolves and a Dream of Spring may both make an appearance
Yeah the the season 6 finale was The Winds of Winter, I'd imagine A Dream of Spring will at least make it this season.
Watching the first episode again -- how the hell did the Night's Watch deserter escape the White Walkers?
Yeah, seems pretty clear that they allow him to escape, almost as a messenger to let people know of their return.
“They never leave any survivors.” “If they never leave any survivors, how do the stories get out?” “........”
Same with Sam, right? Also, I've asked this question before and maybe I'm just missing something but... Was it ever explicitly stated that the White Walkers would inevitably make it over/around the wall without a dragon or are we just supposed to assume our own theory? It's possible that Bran passing through could have broken the wall's magic spell (just like with the tree), or it could be assumed that with winter coming, the ocean would freeze and they would walk around the wall.... Either way, I don't think it's every really stated. The reason I ask is because if the dragon was their only way through the wall, the whole thing could have been orchestrated by the Night King by letting survivors escape and get the word out.
I knew I hated the show right there in the first 10 minutes. In the books it's the young guy that gets killed along with Lord Royce and it's the older guy that escapes. smh it was so easy to get it right also /s
I think the prevailing theory is that the Wall encapsulated some sort of magic barrier that the White Walkers could not pass. No idea if that magic essentially extends beyond the Wall itself into the ocean, but I think in the show's lore, it's safe to assume that the White Walkers could have bypassed the wall by freezing over the ocean waters and crossing on foot on either side. I've always taken the White Walker threat into Westeros as inevitable, but the Wall's collapse expedited the process and made it an easier route for the Army of the Dead.
That's one thing I wish they used more from the book. In the books the White Walkers' language is described as sounding like cracking ice. They used that kind of noise in the beginning of the pilot if you listen closely, but ever since then, the only noise they've made is that high pitched scream.
Right, I agree with all of that, but I was mainly asking if we have any reason to believe one theory over another or if we're just supposed to guess that they would have eventually gotten past it regardless. Because as of now, it just looks like they didn't really have a way through and Jon's crew essentially went north and handed them the key to bypassing the wall. haha. I am also just playing devil's advocate though. I think it would make sense that they were waiting thousands of years for the long night/winter so the water would freeze considering they were heading towards the coast/East Watch.
I personally think it's safe to assume that they would have eventually gotten past it regardless. You have Mormont sending the king a warning about the White Walkers early on in season 1, and the Night's Watch primary concern is that they don't have enough men to defend the realm for when they begin to march south. From the characters in the north, they always speak of it as inevitable. The characters more in the south disregard them as an urban legend and don't take it seriously, but I think those characters in the north are supposed to act as a sort of avatar for a narrator, letting the viewer know that no matter what, the Army of the Dead is going to invade. The overarching question is not if, but when, and what specifically they'll target.